Which side of the bed is the left side? Is the answer based on the perspective of laying in the bed (person’s head at the head end)? Is the answer based on viewing it from the foot of the bed, looking at the head of the bed? Is there an “anatomical position” or special terminology like in boating for this?

For context: My boyfriend and I can’t agree on this. We change who gets which side based on the shoulder we’d predominantly sleep on and how it’s feeling. This let’s us get good cuddles before shoulder pain gets irritated. He comes to bed after me. A while back he asked what side I’m sleeping on. I said “left”. Later that night, he comes in and almost lays directly on me because he claims “left” is the other side. Since then we have to describe which side using complicated descriptions.

  • mad_asshatter@lemmy.world
    55·
    1 year ago

    My wife sleeps in the middle, like a snow angel, so I always sleep on what’s left.

  • TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pubEnglish
    452·
    1 year ago

    Right, left if you’re looking at the bed from the foot.

    Stage right, stage left if you’re looking out from the bed toward the foot.

      • Today@lemmy.world
        11·
        1 year ago

        Theater stuff in high school… Is that like making out backstage after rehearsal?

    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      1 year ago

      the former is known as “audience left/right”

      but allow me to use a more dated theatrical terminology:

      prompt side and bastard prompt.

  • all-knight-party@kbin.run
    371·
    1 year ago

    I’d say it’d be from the perspective of laying in it, since no one cares what side of the bed is which unless they’re going to lay in it

    • calabast@lemm.ee
      11·
      1 year ago

      Ah, but as you say, people only care when they’re “going to” lay in it, meaning they’re not in the bed yet. Once you’re in bed, you pretty much never need to specify the left or right side, you can say “shit, i spilled a drink on your side!”

      So, since we only care about left and right sides while we’re not in bed, I say who cares about the in-bed perspective. What matters is how it is oriented while you’re standing up and looking at it. So that’s how I’d assign left and right side.

      • all-knight-party@kbin.run
        5·
        1 year ago

        To that, I’d say it’s likely better if we use landmarks. Identify unique furniture or a window or something on each side. Then, refer to them as “Window side” or “Lamp side”.

    • Mostly_Harmless_Variant@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      1 year ago

      This is my stance on it. I thought this so such a common sense perspective that my brain stalled when he disagreed with it.

    • MrsDoyle@lemmy.world
      10·
      1 year ago

      This is the correct answer. It’s how ships avoid running into each other. When whoever is steering the vessel is facing the bow (front, usually the pointy bit), port is their left, starboard their right. Ship’s running lights are red on the port side, green on the left. So if you’re out on the water at night, you can immediately see whether a ship is coming towards you or moving away. The rule for passing an oncoming vessel is “port to port”, thus avoiding confusion and collision.

      Sitting up in bed I would consider the headboard the stern, because I have my back to it, and the foot the bow. So the area to starboard is right, and portside is left. Ahoy maties!!!

        • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          I actually love this. Imagine all cars are race car beds and then use driver and passenger side lol.

        • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
          6·
          1 year ago

          Ah. But in a bed race, it’s foot-first, implying a direction of travel that itself dictates head==aft and foot==fore. Totally different from how ironman flies, fwiw.

      • Hurculina Drubman@lemm.ee
        21·
        1 year ago

        port and starboard are based on the orientation of the ship, not the outside observer

        • Björn Tantau@swg-empire.de
          2·
          1 year ago

          Yes, but without knowing which is fore and which is aft you cannot make that judgement.

          • Hurculina Drubman@lemm.ee
            4·
            1 year ago

            fore would definitely be the foot of the bed. that’s where you are looking when you are using the bed properly

              • Hurculina Drubman@lemm.ee
                21·
                1 year ago

                the bed was designed for sleeping. just because you can face any direction while fucking on it doesn’t mean anything, because the same can be said of a ship

    • Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de
      4·
      1 year ago

      Driver’s side and passengers side?

      Stage left and stage right? (Depends on where your curtains are).

      • agelord@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 year ago

        People drive in different sides in different parts of the world.

        • Fermion@mander.xyz
          3·
          1 year ago

          The majority of people occupying the same bed will have congruent driver/passenger sides. Distant strangers don’t need to know which side you are referring to. Couples from different regions could adopt the local convention.

          • AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 year ago

            Seems like a flawed system. Why would auto manufactures not force the whole world to do it the same?

        • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I assume OP and their partner drive on the same side of the road as each other though lol

  • Baron Von J@lemmy.world
    25·
    1 year ago

    We use “my side” and “your side” so it’s always correct from any perspective.

  • boydster@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    17·
    1 year ago

    The answer is easy, but to get to it, a little bit of a thought experiment is probably helpful. I say, look to how we define our own left and right sides for guidance. When facing forward, our left hand is on the left side of our body, and the right hand is on the right side of the body. Perspective doesn’t matter, and there is no ambiguity.

    Now we need to extend this to the bed. A bed has a head, just like a person does. So where would its face be? It seems clear to me, unless you are sleeping on a dead mattress, that the face is clearly going to be looking upwards at the ceiling at the head of the bed. So the left side of the bed, if you are standing at the foot of the bed looking at it, would be on your right. Just like the left side of your friend, when you are standing in front of them and looking at them, is on your right.

    Now if you just imagine the mattress to be perfectly spherical and in a frictionless environment…

    (Obviously just having fun with this answer, but it’s also the right answer)

    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
      5·
      1 year ago

      It’s easiest if you think of the bed as a person. I call mine “Ed the Bed”

  • Tiefling IRL@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    16·
    1 year ago

    Stage left is the only definition that matters here, unless you have good reason to care about audience left owo

    • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
      5·
      1 year ago

      House left is the better methodology, you’re going to be talking about sides while looking at the bed more often than while already in it.

  • jbrains@sh.itjust.works
    14·
    1 year ago

    Either:

    • you establish a convention and both learn to choose one perspective or the other
    • one of you tries to do that and the other pretends not to agree, because it’s cute and fun as a form of teasing

    Pick one and I hope whatever you pick works for both of you. Agreement is easy, but teasing can be fun.

    • nixcamic@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 year ago

      But that’s the position you most commonly look at a bed from. And when figuring out where you’re gonna get into the bed.

      Like the only time you actually use the information about sides of bed is from the perspective of outside the bed.

    • Mostly_Harmless_Variant@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      1 year ago

      Nice job renaming stage and audience to bed and standing. I would’ve used their original terms. Our bed is not a stage and we don’t entertain an audience so that would’ve gotten weird/entertaining at some point.

      And absolutely agree. I was dumbfounded when he said otherwise. There’s a good few who agree with the logic. Personifying the bed breaks that logic though.

  • TostiHawaii@feddit.nl
    11·
    1 year ago

    If you lay in the bed, depending on if you are lying on your back or stomach, left and right still change.

    Ususally a bed is positioned with the head against a wall, so if you are facing the bed from the foot end, left and right are always the same. So I vote left/right is as seen from the foot end of the bed.

    • Mostly_Harmless_Variant@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      1 year ago

      You’re in agreement with my BF.

      I didn’t consider stomach sleepers. It’s a good counter. I sleep on my stomach for short periods of time, but laying prone isn’t default orientation (we typically don’t face the ground) so therefore shouldn’t be used as an indicator of default direction.

      How do you reference position while in the bed? Just “your vs my” side?

  • kinttach@lemm.eeEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    Imagine the bed is a clock. The 12 o’clock position is at the head — I don’t think anything else makes sense. That makes it unambiguous.

    The positions are 3 o’clock and 9 o’clock.

    • amelia@feddit.de
      4·
      1 year ago

      And 3 is obviously on the right side of a clock and 9 on the left so the debate is settled.

      • intensely_human@lemm.ee
        4·
        1 year ago

        Not if you consider the clock’s face is facing you. Facing your face. And so you can’t expect its right and wrong to be the same as yours.

        Let’s say you have a day to move your stuff and you’re down to the last minute. You only have time for one more trip back inside. Your girlfriend says to grab whatever’s left of the clock. You go inside and look at its clockwork face, still gazing up at you with blank, bright numbers. Where the clock has hung all these years, to one side there’s a window with a bottle sitting there. To the other a vase with flowers. What do you take? What’s left of the clock, the vase, or do you say screw it and grab the bottle, without bothering to read carefully what’s inside?

        I’m afraid this is all just more confusing, sorry

      • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
        7·
        1 year ago

        I can get on board with this! (Pun intended)

        But then which side is the Bow and which the Stern?

        • MaggiWuerze@feddit.de
          3·
          1 year ago

          The bow would be the foot end, since you’re looking in that direction

        • Eczpurt@lemmy.world
          11·
          1 year ago

          I would say the foot is the Stern and the head the bow I guess. Just to stay with a sort of head being the front of something and foot being the tail end.

          • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
            5·
            1 year ago

            But during normal use, you are facing the foot. I would think that makes it the Bow

            • Eczpurt@lemmy.world
              2·
              1 year ago

              I guess even if you are a stomach sleeper your feet are still towards the foot. Maybe this is best.

      • Today@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        Varies when you travel, but you also have to move the bed to the other side of the room.

  • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
    111·
    1 year ago

    No right or left.

    Window side or door side.

    If this doesn’t apply to your bed, then you have aligned the bed improperly.

  • kbal@fedia.io
    6·
    1 year ago

    We customarily refer to the ends of the bed as “head” and “foot” which are analagous to the head and foot of a sail in nautical terms. Therefore “forward” in the ordinary bed naturally corresponds to the direction of straight up toward the ceiling, and the port side is the one on your left when lying in the bed facing that way.