DeltaChat is great

Piefed has a multireddit like function in personal and public feeds. It helps a lot with similar communities.

https://piefed.world/ for an instance managed by the Lemmy.world team

Piefed has a multireddit like function in personal and public feeds. It helps a lot with similar communities.

The federating issues were solved iirc

https://lemmy.wtf/comment/20409995

Yet I still regularly see toxic users being flagged as such, with a 95% accuracy. Either they don’t care or they don’t know enough about the system to bypass it.

The code is open source. Nothing is obscured. The main objective is to identify trolls and toxic users who won’t bother looking at the code.

It’s not a silver bullet, it’s just supposed to grab the low hanging fruit, but it’s fine for me

Piefed doesn’t shadowban:

The reputation system doesn’t shadowban content. You don’t get comments silently autoremoved for having a low reputation. You don’t get throttled either.

https://lemmy.zip/post/58102975/24342240

Nice post

I am, hope you too!

And when you only focus on the edge cases every tool seems insufficient.

About my confidence: you’re not on Piefed, so you don’t experience the system as a user. If you give it a try, I’m quite sure you’ll see it works as intended 80-90% of the time.

And again, if a legit user gets flagged as toxic, there’s no other consequence besides the warning, that doesn’t prevent anything from being seen.

We’re running in circles at this point. I still have to see an example of a false positive for this system, as a nontoxic user being flagged as such.

Oh great, welcome here! 😊 Glad you like it, feel free if you have any questions

Thank you!

But I can’t help but note that the system seems intentionally blind to targeted harassment, which can be a source, if not cause, of bad faith accounts. (And likely those need different approaches since those are also niche cases themselves.)

If you mean using puppet accounts to massively downvote someone, that’s also tracked, but with another tool

So with that example: what do the flags do that the content of their posts don’t already communicate?

It warns other users that this commenter may be a bad faith user / troll.

Usually when I encounter a troll, I check their profile to see if they are indeed a troll. The warning saves some time on that, and is accurate the vast majority of the time.

Piefed system doesn’t punish those who do not act “the way the creator wants”.

Downvotes given are only actions from the user, no interaction from the Piefed dev.

Downvotes received is feedback from other users, no interaction from the Piefed dev either.

allowing them to do the worst parts of reddit in the fediverse.

Trolls are already around, as you pointed out in another comment. I would rather have a tool that works 80% of the time to detect trolls than no tools at all.

Would discard a tool that identifies 90% of trolls just because it doesn’t reach 100% accuracy?

While we are talking, example of a user with the two warnings: https://piefed.zip/u/[email protected]

The upvote you give yourself is there, but IIRC it doesn’t count for your score.

While we are talking, this is the kind of users who gets the two warnings: https://piefed.zip/u/[email protected]