It’s recommended because of snap, and ubuntu doing malicious things with snap.

Sure but these things are not remotely comparable.

It really doesn’t require much aside from backing up, I can have a linux system up and running with a complete beginner in 30 minutes or so.

Except this is free

bitwarden?

interesting, thank you.

It really is spotify’s killer feature for me, probably won’t switch to something that doesn’t have it.

Spotify has a feature where if it is playing on another device, you can control it with any other device logged into the account, is there any good way to replicate this with a linux desktop and an android phone?

Just use cosmic on another distro?

these are hurdles that exist for enterprise users not ones that exist for typical desktop users who want things like “why can’t i see the names of the windows on the bar”

enterprise users expect to not have things be exactly the way they want and don’t complain as much about customization needs

as someone who does one on one troubleshooting, people have a lot of problems with gnome, honestly if they did would they tell you?

Gnome is just a very fundamentally different experience than windows out of the box and while some, many even will love it, it is not the best default choice for windows converts.

A lot of people are going to recommend you mint, I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lxqt is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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It does not reduces maintenance.

It absolutely does, package maintainers just have to maintain ONE package for all distros.

And it costs hard drive, and with heavy use, probably ram too

This isn’t performance really, it’s storage, and I don’t think it actually impacts ram.

Maintenance is only reduced on the surface level. The complexity you don’t see as a problem is the actual maintenance problem. It’s not a problem only if you’re not the one dealing with integration, maintenance or security.

This is a case you’re going to have to try a lot harder to make, I don’t see what you’re saying at all.

But this one in particular vastly reduces maintenance, doesn’t do anything at all to performance, and only arguably adds complexity, I think it needs to be case by case.

It’s just a weird linux distro that you install atop your distro, honestly, I have no idea why you think that.

For beginners KDE is much more familiar, and is generally the better pick regardless. I’m not saying this is the best choice for everyone, but it’s the best choice when you don’t know anything.

Flatpak is infinitely easier for people who don’t know what they’re doing, because it’s sandboxed and separate from the native system. If you know what you’re doing it’s different though, I don’t use them personally.

Flatpak is infinitely easier for people who don’t know what they’re doing, because it’s sandboxed and separate from the native system. If you know what you’re doing it’s different though, I don’t use them personally.

Be preinstalled on laptops/desktops.

everything else is ready unless you use niche software. Most people just use a browser and word or a pdf editor.

note the distro MUST be an immutable up to date kde flatpak using one for normal people, however