Been keeping a keen eye on Bazzite as it seems like a good distro for people like myself who mainly use the desktop pc to play games on. But it doesn’t seem like a “typical” distro for a daily driver? How does Bazzite for example differ from Nobara which is another gaming-oriented distro? I’m just curious as I keep hearing good things about Bazzite, and wondering if there would be any benefit as to someone who is using Tumbleweed, to switch to Bazzite right now.

So, if you are a Bazzite user, or have experience: let me know how it went, and if you could daily drive it!

Edit: I guess the same could be asked for ChimeraOS?

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    I am not a fan because they install all that WINE stuff on the system level which is a huge security degradation.

    I disagree with this. Sure, it could be made more secure, but Wine, on it’s own isn’t, any greater security risk compared to any other scripting runtime such as say Python, which is also installed at the system level. Ultimately it’s up to the user to get their executables from trustworthy sources - and whether it’s a random bash script or an exe, doesn’t really make a difference.

    As for Firefox, if you’re truly concerned about security then you wouldn’t be using it in the first place, you’d be using Librewolf, which you can install without any issues.

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      Haven’t you heard? Anything that isn’t flatpak is completely insecure and will end in your computer being hacked. It will also break the next time you update your computer.

      /s

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      I guess random Windows programs are even safer as they may not really work on the host OS.

      But still, Bottles is top tier, it works great and is perfectly packaged as a flatpak (no permissions, portal use etc) and pupgui allows to use the latest protonge.

      To Librewolf, that is hosted on their own repo, using their own build system. So it could be considered as less trusted than upstream firefox managed by fedora, especially in terms of timely updates. You could also use the Firefox binary, which is very quick (did a benchmark) but you need to do the desktop entry yourself.

      Also Librewolf is not security hardened afaik, maybe a few checks are also for security but it should be the same as Firefox. It is privacy optimized. Disadvantage here again is, that if you need a vanilla profile for shitty websites etc, that doesnt exist.

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        I opted for Lutris because Bottles has issues that make it unrecommendable and unsupportable by us.

        Because it’s only shipped as a flatpak (They bullied the Fedora packager until they quit) it doesn’t support the frame limiter built into gamescope on the deck images (Requires a patch in Mesa).

        As a contributor to the Northstar mod for Titanfall 2, we originally wanted to recommend it as the default Linux install path due to it’s friendly UI, but found because it avoids using winetricks it’s missing required dependencies. Despite us trying to work with them and contributing code, to this day it still doesn’t work, and recent discussions about this problem were extremely abrasive from their side, much like the above linked issue.

        Ultimately Lutris provides a more consistent experience for gamers that are already used to Steam - with the same tools working for both. That’s my reasoning anyway.

        As far as wine, we only install wine-core and not the entire stack, that’s purely for Lutris dependency reasons and isn’t intended to be used by the end user. Wine-ZGUI for instance is a Flatpak, and Lutris will install its own copy of wine - most likely Wine-GE or a derivative.