The point was that both are morally wrong and I still keep doing it.

I don’t feel like defending a view that I don’t hold. I don’t get the sense from your replies that you’ve even understood my argument.

Without the current economic model, no-one would pay for big budget productions

I haven’t said that.

It doesn’t, as you imply, reduce the likelihood of big budget media existing in the future

I haven’t said that either.

a centralised fund we all contribute to in proportion to our means

Correct me if I’m wrong but that sounds a lot like paying for the content

many small scale investors… …like Kickstarter

This sounds like paying for the content too.

a legislated solution that protects copyright until artists are sufficiently recompensed

Recompensed? Sounds like getting paid.

To me it seems like there’s no disagreement here.

I stand by what I said: if everyone pirated, no one would be making or funding big-budget movies because there would be no money to be made. Coming up with alternative payment systems for the media we consume is all well and good, but that’s not piracy - it actually just reinforces my point about paying being the moral thing to do. My argument isn’t that the current system is good; it’s that piracy wouldn’t be sustainable if everyone started doing it.

I think it’s objectively a true statement that the vast majority of big budget hollywood movies, video games and TV-series would stop existing if nobody was paying for them.

Obviously not all media would go away. I’ve never gotten paid for my photography or YouTube videos because I’m not making them for money. Same applies to a ton of other content creators as well.

The only reason there’s content for us to pirate is because there are still people paying for it. If it weren’t for them, nobody would be spending millions on new movies or games. They’re the ones funding our content, and we’re just freeriding.

I think a good measure for morality is to imagine wether the world would be a better place if everyone acted as I do. In this case, I don’t think it would.

I think piracy is immoral but I still partake in it and I don’t hate anyone for doing so.

It’s like eating meat.

Hope you at least see the irony in being able to come here to criticize our ‘American liberal opinions’ in a thread about the systematic censorship of people criticizing yours.

The reason I personally don’t recommend or hardly even mention Lemmy to anyone else is because here’s hardly any content they’d be interested in. The vast majority of posts are quite esoteric and directed at the kind of people who already are here.

Twitter and YouTube are the least toxic social media platforms I use. I know toxicity exists on both but it is not being served to me. My feed is what I want to see and only that.

On the other hand, something like Reddit or Lemmy needs a huge amount of curation to keep the feed even half decent.