https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter

Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity. Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds.

Note that Hamas is not the only Palestinian faction, but as the one everyone sees fighting Israel, the other factions, and the people of Gaza support them. When the people of Palestine are no longer fighting for their existence, I have no doubt they will support more secular factions as they did before.

But killing and kidnapping hundreds of innocent civilians is. You have to be clear about that

I am being clear.

Would you condemn the Polish resistance because they killed some of the German settlers who came to settle Poland during the 1940s? The South African anti-apartheid movement because they burned some Boers and their collaborators alive? Or would you say the oppressor doesn’t get to judge the morality of the tactics the oppressed use?

Requiring every antizionist to constantly stop to condemn Hamas creates a false equivalency between the people who are inside a concentration camp and the people keeping them there.

That is my dream. Just people living together peacefully, no matter their religion.

This is what existed before Israel, and god willing, it’s what we’ll have after Israel.

Great-grandchildren are being punished because their relatives (might) have fought against Israel

Fighting against settler colonists who came and established an apartheid regime is not a crime.

I am only criticizing the Israeli government, […] Israel in general

Israel is a settler colonial project, an Israel that provided equal rights to all Muslims, Christians, and Jews living in its territory would be less related to the current state of Israel than modern South Africa is to Apartheid South Africa.

not Jews

Yes, we agree that it’s antisemitic as fuck to associate Jewishness with Zionism. When Israel is murdering children in public view, implying that Israel represents Jews is just blood libel with extra steps.

In 1948, during the Nakba, Israel ethnically cleansed much of Palestine. From that (and a good portion of the ethnic cleansing Israel has done since), many of the people were driven into Gaza.

In 2006, when Israel got kicked out of Gaza due to an uprising, they built a wall around it and restricted the amount of food, fuel, and other items, and banned the gazans from constructing wells, water containers, and other things that would allow the people in Gaza to stay alive longer if Israel cut off food/water supplies.

Yes, there’s a monochrome display in the middle. It’s kinda like a TI-86 calculator aimed at children.

It’s not the democratic politicians who were robbed. It’s the democratic politicians who were complicit in us getting robbed of our rights.

Yup, the only reason we got Harris to replace Biden was that it was made clear that Biden didn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell.

Sadly, it was not made clear enough that it was a policy issue, so now we have Harris adopting every unpopular republican policy she can manage.

Lemmy just can’t handle someone who’s anti-genocide

They can’t when that stance conflicts with their party. Hence why “The dems need to stop the genocide, people are not going to vote for genocide” gets you downvoted.

“fuck Biden for arming Israel” meme that has 1,500 upvotes

Those exist on .world? I see too many “You have to vote for genocide because trump would do genocide and also other bad things” type posts, it’d be weird if they coexisted.

can do some version, though, if you’re interested

Sure if it’s trivial I’d be interested, but don’t put too much work into it.

Maybe, but conservatism is considered much more acceptable among Americans than anything left of liberalism. Particularly now when the dems are trying to reach out to conservatives with policies such as closing the border, “tough on crime” rhetoric, unlimited support for Israel, etc. You can check by whether you’ve been banned from PleasentPolitics

legally” and “Illegal

Adding “this should be done according to the law” doesn’t divorce an action from its morality.

Rounding up millions of immigrants, some whom have been here for decades, and nearly all of whom are here because they’re fleeing the effects of the US constantly couping their governments and training/funding terrorists is an immoral action, whether they’re legal or illegal.

At one point I tried to illustrate with data just how big a jerk you have to be before it starts banning you. If you’re interested, I can start doing that again.

Would you?

My understanding is that downvotes reflect whether or not someone agrees with a post or comment much more than whether the user is making a constructive comment or not so they can only be used to infer how agreeable the comment is.

I’ve also offered to delve, for any user who feels that this has happened to them, into the breakdown of why they’re being ranked down, which almost always is because they’re being a jerk about their “dissenting” opinion, and not the opinion itself.

Use me as an example, I regularly get dozens of downvotes for such hot takes as “facilitating genocide hurts the dems chances of getting elected, we need them to stop that if we want them to win.”.

So it would delete people’s posts if they get downvoted a lot or if the poster tends to upvote heavily downvoted posts?

You’ve automated the suppression of dissenting voices.

FlLE.txt FILE.txt

If some company wants to keep their code closed

That’s the whole point, you’re leveraging the use of the commons so that it’s less feasible to keep your code closed. If they want to keep their code closed, they can spend a lot more manhours building everything from scratch.

Downvotes without any response: This is unpopular with this community, but probably correct.

Downvotes with responses: This was either contentious or wrong.

1 upvote, 0 downvotes, 10+ responses: You posted something really dumb, and Hexbear found out.

What similarities are there, other than the users being exceptionally ornery?

Why not try it, then remove the feature if it turns out toxic?

I’ve no strong feelings on the matter, but I can understand how some would feel 10 people telling you exactly how you’re wrong can feel worse than 10 downvotes.

I avoid this by simply being correct all the time.

There’s a number of instances that don’t have downvotes. Notably, it forces each person who takes issue with something you’ve said to respond to you if nobody else has said it. Whether that’s better is up to you.

I mean they have better conditions and wages than the average ag worker in the US, let alone prison workers. There’s plenty of slavery by another name in this world, but this is a poor example.