Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net

If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.

  • aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    Yeah dude let’s just federate with an instance maintained by a corporation that has undoubtedly caused a genocide in Myanmar by turning a blind eye to a far-right hate speech group that caused an entire fucking minority to flee into another country.

    I don’t get why people are supporting and saying “oh it must be up to the user” like bro this is the company we’re dealing with. Fuck that fuck threads fuck zuckerberg i don’t want his shit cancer near something that’s going well so far.

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      1 year ago

      Israel have been successfully pressuring meta to remove and shadow ban accounts sympathetic to Palestinians. The level of censorship is crazy.

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        1 year ago

        OK, I’ll bite. You got something more substantial than “I read it on the internet” to back that up? One reputable source on your accusation? Not sayin’ you’re lying/wrong, just asking for some verifiable proof.

        • guriinii@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          At the moment this is coming from secondary sources from within meta so there are no articles about it that I’m aware of. But Palestinians and activists constantly have their content removed, account reach limited, and comments removed (which has happened to me multiple times). People also have their accounts threatened and removed.

          These actions are visible constantly, meta have been doing this since the start. For example, when you go to someone’s stories at the top it might show 4 or 5 stories, but when you click through to their profile there’ll be 20+.

          Some people I follow don’t even show up at the top anymore and I have to access their stories via their profile page or if I’ve messaged them recently.

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            1 year ago

            After (as of this reply) eight hours, you have produced nothing more than anecdotal evidence if not outright invented. I must assume at this point you are spreading disinformation for whatever your goals may be to that end.

            Thank you for wasting everybody’s time.

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              1 year ago

              Welcome to Lemmy!

              It’s like Reddit with the provocative takes and hyperbole, but even more extreme somehow!

              This place is hilarious.

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          1 year ago

          Numerous actual popular accounts and news sources have been suspended. It was major news in the Arabic-speaking world in October. Meta even apologized for auto-translating Palestinian as “terrorist.”

      • aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 year ago

        I’m not sure if federating will help meta so much as it will definitely (most probably) hurt the lemmy/mastodon network.

        Here’s a similar case that happened before, with the XMPP protocol being coopted by google but eventually killing it in favor of their own proprietary solution:

        https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

        Big tech isn’t on our side, and we have to handle outside corporate influence with heavy skepticism.

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    1 year ago

    please take a look at the replies under zuck’s own post in threads.net and determine if that’s the type of content you want.

    for those who don’t want to visit, majority of the commentators are bots. some advertising crypto, and others asking for money.

    even if you think you can individually block those accounts, keep in mind the size of threads compared to fediverse.
    for Lemmy: monthly active users are barely 150K40K, while for threads it’s 100 million. there’s no chance you can control that inflow of bots.

    and if it still doesn’t convince you, you can read threads’ privacy policy, which states that they’ll gather all that pii if you interact with their content.

    most of the internet is already bigtech, I don’t want Lemmy to become another arm of it. though I have faith in my instance maintainer and dessalines, the dev.

  • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago

    Comment stolen from user “copygirl” from blahaj.zone:

    Looks like they’ll be harvesting your data if you follow anyone from Threads, maybe even injecting ads. Unsure what happens to the data of people that get followed by a Threads user. A large part of the fediverse is here precisely because they want to escape corporate meddling, data-hoarding, advertising and other anti-user malpractices. There’s a number of people talking about this, here’s a recent post that highlights some of the things from their TOS.

  • Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    For default, they are unfederated in threads.

    Also, are you sure you want the mass don’t know what the federated web is? We are a low number of users. If we want to me the new standard of internet, we need the people to know what de Fediverse is. And threads can be that first door, and then they can start to spread to other more suitable stances.

    I just want to extend the conversation.

    • secret300@lemmy.sdf.org
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      For default, they are unfederated in threads.

      Do you mean instances have just all unfederated or that it’s built into Lemmy itself?

      I haven’t heard anything on threads in a while so I’m not sure how well it took off but I agree that having something like threads could bring in more users.

      Honestly I like the vibe of Lemmy and the fediverse now but I definitely do miss how there was a community for everything.

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        3 months ago

        A friend of mine made a threads account, and for his account being federated, the need to search in the settings a box of “Want your account to access the fediverse?” and the default is off

  • letsmakeafriendship@lemmy.world
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    In favor of defederation. If I start seeing garbage from threads in my feed, I’m switching instances. I don’t want Meta pushing their divisive, hateful, misinformation all up in my feeds. Meta will kill fedi. We don’t need them.

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      Yeah. I’ll switch to an instance that is defederated from Threads, if mine doesn’t.

      I left Meta’s other properties to avoid state sponsored hate speech. I won’t use a platform that gives hate speech a platform.

      I don’t need to wait to know if Meta will do that. I already know.

  • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
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    Better yet, I’ll request the admin specifically to federate with Threads, so that I can move across the stuff that I care about to mbin from the Threads app.

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    If anybody remembers XMPP being widespread and what Facebook, Google, Apple and others (say, I personally remember VK and Yandex in Russia supporting it) did to it, that’s what will happen if you “wait and see”.

    EDIT: oh, half the thread is such comments

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    1 year ago

    I want a server where users can make these decisions for themselves.

    Fuck this mob-mentality spurred upon by losers.

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    And another attempt at blanket hating on a platform for no reason. Be more original, people.

    Edit: if YOU don’t like it, sure block it. But don’t force your backwards decision on everyone else.

  • MajorHavoc@lemmy.world
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    Let’s not defederate from every corporate player. Some of them can probably respect reasonable rules of civility.

    But fuck Meta. We already know how this plays out.

    We know there’s a huge wave of hatred and misinformation incoming. We’ve seen it on their other platforms.

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      There was an interesting paired poll done, asking about federation with Threads and federation with Tumblr.

      66% of people were wary of or actively opposed federating with Threads. Fewer than 20% were wary of or actively opposed federating with Tumblr.

      It’s not “defederate from every corporate player”. It’s passing this message on to Meta:

      A very ornate "fuck off"

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    1 year ago

    Better yet, let them enjoy the full connectivity for a month. Once they’ve enjoyed all the awesome content and got used to it - defederate.