• LeadersAtWork@lemmy.world
      153·
      1 year ago

      Nazis certainly were evil at their core and may be an outlier. War though? It’s difficult to not call war and it’s atrocities evil. Even if you can prove irrefutably that you are on the “good side”, two barracks down, the next town over, a 1000ft overhead something evil could be taking place specifically because war exists, and what’s evil hides easiest in chaos and death.

      Conflict happens. To the single soldier. The lonely wife. The stricken Mother and Father. War rarely has a true meaning. “Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer” Javik (Mass Effect)

      People tend to defend war because of their agreement or disagreement over the reason for a conflict. While there is often a morally right side and wrong side, all I really see are the lives lost.

      • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        510·
        1 year ago

        Nice speech. Not terribly relevant, but I’m sure it made you feel nice.

    • Classy@sh.itjust.works
      5·
      1 year ago

      Don’t forget Imperial Japan! Everyone leaves them out of the discussion.

    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
      1717·
      1 year ago

      I’d just like to point out that it wasn’t the Americans who beat the Nazis, it was the Soviets

      • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
        129·
        1 year ago

        All while killing nearly 15 million civilians and undesirables, after being allied to the Nazis and invading Poland and then only going against the Nazis when they kept invading.

        The Soviet’s were happy to carve up Europe with the Nazis.

        The soviets didn’t win it single handedly by any measure, but funny joke and all.

        The Soviets weren’t the good guys, they just happened to be double fucked by their bad guy ally.

        • LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml
          21·
          1 year ago

          Wow. Unironically spouting nazi propaganda in a thread about the nazis being evil. What a load of ahistorical bullshit.

          • isa41@lemm.ee
            11·
            1 year ago

            Yeah, the nazis and their defenders will always come out of the woodwork any time someone points out the (easily verifiable) facts regarding who really won WWII (the Soviet Union) and defeated the axis powers.

            • isa41@lemm.ee
              11·
              1 year ago

              And you’re a fuckin’ clown.