• airbussy@lemmy.oneEnglish
    10·
    9 months ago

    All these answers are so killjoy and boring. Like yeah we should strive to make our own planet better, but why not also do this? Building habitats on other worlds doesn’t prevent us from caring for this one.

    Plus maybe trying to make a liveable environment in space can give us new insights in preserving the one at home. Like how solar panels have come from space exploration.

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      181·
      9 months ago

      Why would people want to focus more on things we can actually do right now and would improve our lives instead of completely unfeasible pipe dreams? I don’t understand.

        • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
          104·
          9 months ago

          Isn’t there space for both?

          No. Flatly. You do not get to eject any more human garbage into the cosmos from which we came-- you already have WHOLE FUCKING ARRAYS of busted up satellites and pieces of rockets and a bunch of other more shit floating in high orbit that you have no plans to go retrieve, mind you; fuck would you propose making even more for? Other than the narcissistic techbro flex, I mean?

          • LilyRose1919@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
            7·
            9 months ago

            There is no way you are this upset about piece of metal existing on Mars, littering the rocks. You’re upset about something else and transferring it.

            • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
              74·
              9 months ago

              It physically enrages me every time I look into the night sky ad have to question how much of what I’m seeing up there is just dead space junk. I grew up considering the cosmos more beautiful, and honestly, more sacred than even the ocean that perpetuates our planet. So no, it actually does anger me that people just brazenly throw around ideas of doing what they’ve already done to Earth to other planets, and honestly fuck you for trying to minimize that rage.

              Are you a psychiatrist? Do you have ANY kind of accreditation or doctorate to make such a call? I don’t know how you got a lemmygrad account; but I can only take it to mean the moderation there really is slipping.

              • LilyRose1919@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                4·
                9 months ago

                It physically enrages me every time I…

                I’m starting to suspect it doesn’t take much to physically enrage you 😄

                • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  61·
                  9 months ago

                  😄

                  You right now, because you’re totally not mad about your hopium escapist fantasies getting challenged:

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          61·
          9 months ago

          Every industry exploits the working class under capitalism.

          Are we colonizing planets or building habitats in space right now or any time in the perceivable future, though? No, so beyond a fun thought experiment or sci-fi material, it’s not an idea worth giving any serious thought towards.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      176·
      9 months ago

      All these answers are so killjoy and boring.

      Yes, fantasizing about billionaires fixing everything by making good on their bullshit marketing pitches is very exciting to credulous people.

      Building habitats on other worlds doesn’t prevent us from caring for this one.

      If you believe that there’s some magic means to have zero emissions launches into space that are in any way self-sustained without further launches to keep throwing resources after spent resources from an increasingly polluted, depleted, and warming Earth, sure, you can huff that hopium deep and hard and ignore the worsening material reality all around you.

      Plus maybe trying to make a liveable environment in space can give us new insights in preserving the one at home.

      You’ve bought deeply into billionaire bullshit and their bogus promises, especially as privatized space travel in the west becomes increasingly vanity tourism and marketing stunts. The accomplishments that such companies’ underpaid and overworked workers achieve are not for the common good, nor can they be because they are publicly subsidized private companies seeking to maximize profits and expand their own venture capital appeal, and nothing more.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            8·
            9 months ago

            My grandpa helped design and test the tech for ballistic missiles while working as a private contractor for a now defunct aerospace corporation under contract with NASA.

            If he was still alive I would say he gets the wall too.

        • lunar_solstice@lemmy.mlEnglish
          6·
          9 months ago

          He has Musk Derangement Syndrome 🤣🤣🤣

          Too much time reading clickbait

          • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
            114·
            9 months ago

            “DAE le Musk Derangement Syndrome?”

            bazinga

            Techbros are burning the world down in swathes to fuel their theftboxes at best, and artificial lovers at worst, Neuralink just fucked some guy’s brains up, Cybertrucks keep failing left and goddamn right, but sure, let’s just chalk all this up to “Musk Derangement Syndrome” jesus fucking christ I hate you techbro settlers. Please die young of something preventable.

            • FrogPrincess@lemmy.mlEnglish
              6·
              9 months ago

              Techbros are burning the world down in swathes to fuel their theftboxes at best, and artificial lovers at worst, Neuralink just fucked some guy’s brains up, Cybertrucks keep failing left and goddamn right, but sure, let’s just chalk all this up to “Musk Derangement Syndrome” jesus fucking christ I hate you techbro settlers. Please die young of something preventable.

              lol this sounds like you have smoke coming out your ears writing it

            • lunar_solstice@lemmy.mlEnglish
              6·
              9 months ago

              Can you string together 2 sentences without culture war tropes?

              • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                114·
                9 months ago

                Culture war is when a person points out the chauvinism inherent in cracker fantasies about colonizing the stars because there is nowhere left to colonize here without just admitting to themselves they just want to subjugate everyone and everything on earth and above.

                @[email protected] is 100% correct in every single comment they have made in this thread.

                I can’t really even add anything to this other than say they right fuck off.

                • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  103·
                  9 months ago

                  “As below, so above” might as well be the settler-colonizer’s ethos. “As I subjugate everything below me, I must reach for what’s above.” At what point is Polly satisfied?

                  Never, apparently. Humanity will go extinct thanks to this malign tumor on our collective neck.

                  • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    102·
                    9 months ago

                    Also funny how libs mistake actual structural material analysis as “culture war tropes” because their framework for viewing the world is constrained by their MSNBC vs Fox News idea of good and bad and anything that challenges it must be from the wrong side of said culture war. Which funnily enough is also culture war bullshit.

                    “Surely I can’t be racist I’m one of the good white people!”

                • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  93·
                  9 months ago

                  Ironically enough in their fantasy about reaching mars with privatized space planes that is an extremely likely scenario lol

            • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              92·
              9 months ago

              I don’t let that cloud my judgement of his companies

              That says a lot about you, then. The guy’s a fascist but you don’t care because so-true muh bazingamobiles and space crap!

              • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
                93·
                9 months ago

                Polly’s Tenet: “I can excuse anything from anyone if it means my treats arrive on time”. My parrot is literally more disciplined than these settler shitstains.

            • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
              93·
              9 months ago

              He isn’t even the guy behind any discovery his manifold bought-up companies make. He’s just the nepobaby failspawn of blood emerald mining company money in South Africa; and as far as I’m concerned, that makes anything that comes out of his companies while he helms them fruit of the poison tree.

              We do not support, uplift, or patronize colonizers, slavers, resource-extracting thieves, or any combination of the three in this house.

              • LilyRose1919@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                6·
                9 months ago

                He isn’t even the guy behind any discovery his manifold bought-up companies make.

                Then stop obsessing on him maybe? The thread was supposed to be about space stations and stuff.

                • m532 [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  62·
                  9 months ago

                  melon-musk and those other bazingas are all the same

                  Colonizer fantasies and zero knowledge about how anything works

        • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          51·
          9 months ago

          You seem to be conjuring an imaginary psych degree so you can concern troll. Fuck off.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          6·
          9 months ago

          speech-r Drej words for "I think I’ll just sit back and watch these ignorant humans burn their own planet down while fantasizing about escaping it for now.’

    • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
      106·
      9 months ago

      All these answers are so killjoy and boring

      Fuck you, the planet is literally on fire and you bazinga-assed techbros want to talk about escape plans. FIX WHAT YOU FUCKED UP FIRST.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          7·
          9 months ago

          You can ignore catastrophic global warming and actual fucking wildfires of unprecedented frequency and scale if you think being a Reddit-tier pedant will protect you.