Hi there, I’ve been meaning to go get more serious about my data. I have minimal backups, and some stuff is not backed up at all. I’m begging for disaster.

Here’s what I’ve got: 2 8tb drives almost full in universal external enclosures A small formfactor PC as a server, with one 8tb drive connected. An unused raspberry pi. No knowledge of how to properly use zfs.

Here’s what I want: I’ve decided I don’t need raid. I don’t want the extra cost of drives or electricity, and I don’t need uptime. I just need backups. I want to use what drives I have, and an additional 16tb drive I’ll buy.

My thought was that I would replace the 8tb drive with a 16tb one, format it with zfs (primarily to avoid bit rot. I’ll need to learn how to check for this), then back it up across the two 8tb drives as a cold backup. Either as two separate drives somehow? Btrfs volume extension? Or a jbod connected to the raspberry pi, that I leave unplugged except for when it’s time to sync the new data?

Or do you have a similarly cheap solution that’s less janky?

I just want to back up my data, with an amount of rot protection, cheaply.

I understand that it might make sense to invest in something a bit more robust right now, and fill it with drives as needed.

But the thing I keep coming to is the cold backup. How can you keep cold backups over several hard drives, without an entire second server to do the work?

Thanks for listening to my rambling.

  • Galapagon@sh.itjust.works
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    1. where are you getting used drives from?
    2. my dad and I both have hypervisors. Any suggestions on how to share backups without a vpn?
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      I originally got my used drives from an electronic recycling company. They were selling them around 3-5$ per TB.

      Then I got a ton of my sysadmin family member.

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      my dad and I both have hypervisors. Any suggestions on how to share backups without a vpn?

      Just use Tailscale on the devices instead of VPN. Secure and no faffing around with port forwarding.

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      Why no VPN? It is what the tech is for, making a private Network between places.

      If you are both behind cgnat then you will need a third place to relay through like a dirt cheap VM or VPS.

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        It’d have to be always up, essentially merging our networks. I thought it’d be better to keep them separate for security.

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          A VPN doesn’t have to merge networks, you can still keep them as 2 separate broadcast domains. like your house could be 192.168.1.0/24 while your parents could be 192.168.5.0/24