I’ll go give you a hint: you made some crap CPU’s and rather than binning them as lower spec’d units you sold them as is and then claimed they were performance units.
This meant that the spec overhead that previously MB manufacturers relied on to stretch the performance wasn’t there anymore.
They’re losing money on ARC so I suppose they felt they had enough headroom on their CPU division to make up for it. Might’ve got cocky and not properly tested the new CPUs before pushing them out.
Shit, that’s not great. As a consumer, is their any way to protect yourself if you’re in the market for a modern i9? Does the entire 12th gen lineup have issues?
I’m still using a 1st gen i7, and the lack of AVX is starting to become problematic, so I think it’s time…
I personally try to support the underdog, so AMD when it comes to x86.
Intel also refuses to provide Vulkan drivers for older CPU’s iGPU’s to drive consumers towards buying new systems, which I considered a dick move, and upgraded that laptop with an AMD based replacement.
We bought three 13900’s for workstations at work, got burnt with two of them, bought 7950X3D’s instead for the next three.
So, if you’re set on Intel (which is your prerogative) ask someone else ;-)
I think my main reason when I looked into things a while back was that Intel had the better single core speeds, but I’m not married to the idea. I’ll mostly be gaming and dabbling with local LLMs.
But yeah, I also haven’t been a huge fan of Intel’s anti-consumer business practices. Maybe it’s time for an AMD system! Thanks!
I’ll go give you a hint: you made some crap CPU’s and rather than binning them as lower spec’d units you sold them as is and then claimed they were performance units.
This meant that the spec overhead that previously MB manufacturers relied on to stretch the performance wasn’t there anymore.
TL;DR: greed
They’re losing money on ARC so I suppose they felt they had enough headroom on their CPU division to make up for it. Might’ve got cocky and not properly tested the new CPUs before pushing them out.
Straight from the Boeing book.
Shit, that’s not great. As a consumer, is their any way to protect yourself if you’re in the market for a modern i9? Does the entire 12th gen lineup have issues?
I’m still using a 1st gen i7, and the lack of AVX is starting to become problematic, so I think it’s time…
I personally try to support the underdog, so AMD when it comes to x86.
Intel also refuses to provide Vulkan drivers for older CPU’s iGPU’s to drive consumers towards buying new systems, which I considered a dick move, and upgraded that laptop with an AMD based replacement.
We bought three 13900’s for workstations at work, got burnt with two of them, bought 7950X3D’s instead for the next three.
So, if you’re set on Intel (which is your prerogative) ask someone else ;-)
I think my main reason when I looked into things a while back was that Intel had the better single core speeds, but I’m not married to the idea. I’ll mostly be gaming and dabbling with local LLMs.
But yeah, I also haven’t been a huge fan of Intel’s anti-consumer business practices. Maybe it’s time for an AMD system! Thanks!
In the last few years, IMHO, single core performance has been irrelevant (for me personally and professionally).
Almost everything can be parallelized, it’s just a bit harder to implement.
I’ve found disk I/O to be the biggest bottleneck recently, PCIe 5.0 NVMe has done more for speed than an extra few MHz have in years.
Thanks for the advice! I’ve been out of the game a long time, so the quick refresher was super helpful.