“the girls are fighting, aren’t they?”

  • IllNess@infosec.pubEnglish
    64·
    1 month ago

    Imagine if Midjourney wins and the only thing you need to legally pirate anything is to self host a LLM.

    • piccolo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      24·
      1 month ago

      “Dont mind me officer, Im just training my (brain) model”

    • merc@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      7·
      1 month ago

      AFAIK, you don’t actually need actually need an LLM to do it, as long as you do what Meta did and not upload anything at all. The one who did the copyright infringement is the one who supplied the data to you.

      • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
        4·
        1 month ago

        Seeding illegal, leeching legal! This is not advice, be kind and seed!

        • merc@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          1 month ago

          I imagine that they could find that leeching is illegal if you upload anything to any other torrent clients. I think Meta was claiming they were literally in the clear because they were being assholes and configuring their clients not to share at all.

          But yeah, keep your ratio above 1, or you’re a jerk.

    • dumnezero@piefed.socialEnglish
      81·
      1 month ago

      If Midjourney wins, other media corporations are going to host bigger and better LLMs and do the pirating. The “prompters” who think that they’re being fighting corporations are the best corporate tools.

  • Y|yukichigai@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    332·
    1 month ago

    The future of piracy is going to be running your own LLM with all the corpo-mandated guardrails disabled.

  • Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    333·
    1 month ago

    So obviously actually being an artist who draws things and someone using an AI slop machine are very different in practice, but I find it interesting that they’re saying the images are unauthorized copies. Is it illegal to draw these characters now too? Or is it different because a human did it?

    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
      23·
      1 month ago

      The argument could be made that because the image generator is essentially a regurgitator with no artistic interpretation, there is no transformative artistic value in it. It’s like applying a filter with extra steps.

      Also the generators charge for access, so they are profiting off of the IP. That’s quite different to making something for personal use or releasing it for free.

    • Sebastrion@leminal.spaceEnglish
      10·
      1 month ago

      I’m pretty sure it is illegal but tolerated. If drawing is legal, I don’t understand why Fan game’s are illegal then.

    • ryannathans@aussie.zoneEnglish
      10·
      1 month ago

      It has always been an infringement to draw their characters lol (apart from fair use which doesn’t apply to most works)

    • yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      2·
      1 month ago

      They can and do issue takedowns for drawings all the time, but yes, they are more lenient when people create them

      • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2·
        1 month ago

        I remember there used to be images to trick t-shirt bots, in a bid to get the companies behind them sued by disney.

  • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
    271·
    1 month ago

    i wish they could kill each other off… corpos are parasites

  • Øπ3ŕ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    241·
    1 month ago

    Above all of this should be the glaringly historical fact that Hollywood was literally founded to escape lawyers for European film groups trying to bring those founders-to-be to justice for their, well, piracy of said films… 🤷🏼‍♂️ I mean, if anyone should deserve an ol’ fashioned legal rogering, it’s those hypocritical backbirths.

    • merc@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      9·
      1 month ago

      AFAIK it was more about getting away from Thomas Edison’s patents.

      • Øπ3ŕ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        10·
        1 month ago

        That is also true, considering he was an infamous patent troll of his time. Fuckin’ killed our boy Nikolai, by proxy, and now the ass-clown is named as the inventor of all manner of things he stole from other, more capable innovators. Fuck him sideways with a Faraday pineapple.

        • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          29 days ago

          That’s why I never contribute much at work past the bare minimum. Someone else takes credit every time. I just watch them fail instead.

          • Øπ3ŕ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            2·
            27 days ago

            Try the bait & switch, instead, and then “somehow” be right there with the actual solution when theirs* butters into flames. 😜

  • MetalMachine@feddit.nlEnglish
    254·
    1 month ago

    Disney is insufferable. Also another reason to have these models as open source and downloadable. They won’t be able to really take it down.

    • Random Dent@lemmy.mlEnglish
      332·
      1 month ago

      I guarantee they’re also adding AI slop trained on other people’s work into their own content, while simultaneously suing anyone who does the same with theirs.

      Fuck Disney

      • Mothra@mander.xyzEnglish
        101·
        1 month ago

        This is the thing… Adding insult to injury, the outcome of this is going to be (if it plays in Disney’s favor) a paid model in which generating characters resembling Disney’s will cost extra. So they will steal and profit

  • secret300@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    151·
    1 month ago

    The company that uses AI for their movies is suing and AI company…

    • Anomalocaris@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      1 month ago

      I’m their defense, given that they are massive settled business, banning ai image generations will more likely hurt younger competition rather than hurt Disney.

      so far, the only AI that they use was for some trippy effect for a TV show. and it was used because it does look uncanny.

      they just want less competition

  • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    131·
    1 month ago

    If Disney wants to stop me from using genAI or pirating, they can pry it out of my cold, dead hands.

    Intellectual property is a myth, copyright is nothing more than calling dibs, and neither have enough merit for me to give a shit about either. Once an idea exists and is released into the public, it’s mine to use however I want. And use it I will, regardless of whatever the artists or developers who made it think.

  • merthyr1831@lemmy.mlEnglish
    61·
    1 month ago

    Big tech about to erupt into a civil war over whether or not they got into the AI slop bubble early.

    • nfreak@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      1 month ago

      Fuck Disney and all but midjourney getting fucked over to hell and back would be a Christmas miracle

  • rodneyck@piefed.socialBanned from communityEnglish
    5·
    1 month ago

    ‘See ya, real soon!’ …in court.