I can’t even feel superior to everyone when theirs so many arch installers!! I use real arch btw. I thought “I guess I should go to Gentoo” but then wait, CHROMEOS IS A GENTOO INSTALLER!
I feel like we only have two options now
- Ascend to BSD-land
- Ironically supporting Windows Unironically
edit: I have decided to replace my debian laptop with BSD
Do you mean all the tears of people bitching on Gentoo because it is allegedly difficult to install were in vain?
Though on a serious note, I unironically wanted Gentoo/BSD to keep existing so I could move to it. I like FreeBSD (but not its users) or DragonflyBSD but pkg/pkgsrc can’t hold a candle to Portage in terms of letting you fine tune your install.
I started using Gentoo many years ago, and took a break from it for a few years. It has some overhead to maintain. Two years or so ago I went back to it and, no joke, it is so much simpler now. Dist-kernel, dracut, refind just sorted everything. I felt like I was cheating. I don’t have to write my own custom initramfs for my custom needs? Stuff just solves it? And compilation errors and conflicts even when running a bunch of keyworded packages: gone! What is going on?
When Python 3.something hit they did a massive overhaul on emerge’s resolution algorythm so it helped a lot when resolving stuff - and now you almost never need to use
revdep.rebuildor things like that, I frankly forgot when it was the last time I used it, probably it has been years. Plus now things like binaries for heavy packages, portage hooks and stuff like that makes things a lot easier for people coming in. I’m really not sure why people still bitch on it or why some people seem to need every package they install available right away… but at least for me it’s been great all this years.Yeah! I forgot about revdep-rebuild! Now that you remind me I do remember being worried about having to rebuild modules, forgetting about it, having to boot frlm live and chroot, and what not going back to Gentoo. I had almsot completely forgotten about it because it is so smooth sailing now.
see Linux went mainstream, are you even using the OS if aren’t writing your own initramfs???
Psst, @[email protected], over here… shsh… I’m hiding this suggestion buried down here in the comments…
... You didn't hear this from me. Alright? Linux's best kept secret [since 2012]. Shshsh. ;D
bedrock
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If you want something more challenging, with less cheating, than Gentoo, you could try Exherbo.
Whats wrong with FreeBSD users? My only real experience is kernel dev I had to work with once they seemed chill.
The times I’ve tried to look into it their fanbase seemed a bit toxic, they are really keen in that you have to read the fucking manual and that every possible question possible about (Free|Open)BSD is already solved in it. And they hold a very weird grudge against Linux because it’s more popular.
Probably FreeBSD devs are cool people and it seems this latest years they have been doing great amounts of work on making FreeBSD available and enjoyable for most people bringing the hot stuff, but on the OpenBSD side of things if Linus Freaking Torvalds tells Theo de Raadt is a “difficult person”…
okay yeah if Linus finds you difficult to work with…
Just earlier, I saw a tui installer for gentoo @ https://lemmy.wtf/post/13625402 , and doubtless many others out there in the wild (even my own from over a decade ago).
And then there are things like CalculateLinux, and RedCoreLinux.
But they’re a bit try-hard, and janky, especially RedCoreLinux.
Gone are the days of Toorox or CloverOS, which were much more like just a straight nice plain desktop Gentoo out of the box with an easy installer.
Then there’s the likes of DecibelLinux… handy if your thing is audio production. Stage4 Gentoo, fit for discovery of all the audio tools.
Though of course, indeed, Gentoo’s not hard to install. Here’s the only gentoo install video you will ever need, and it’s less than 40 seconds long! Simples.
I was just thinking of that, and HAMMER, when reading the BeOS & BeFS posts above.