Pornography restrictions being codified into law, adult art being restricted from most Lemmy instances, Tarot readers blotting out the nudity on their cards on Reddit.
I’m watching the Magicians, on Amazon, and I use subtitles. All the curse words are purposefully filled in with random letters, so as not to offend the reader.
What’s up with all the prudishness? Can people knock it off, please?
People have vaginas. And titties. And dicks. And asses. They swear. They drink. They fuck. Why is this generation afraid of that? Acknowledging these things isn’t going to increase your chances of being sexually violated. So, what’s the deal?
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I would not say people are coming more prudish, but rather policies are. Why? I assume because cash is king, and the best way to get cash is in advertising. Advertising has always been prudish since it needs to appeal to the masses.
Policy eventually influences/dictates culture. This is most obvious with the world ‘unalive’.
Another idea, is that we are becoming significantly more moral and have increase civil rights. How does this relate? Well, if you grew up in the 90s or 00s you know that being told you were gay was not a joking matter, but a serious claim that could make you a social pariah. Now calling someone ‘gay’ as an insult is not as socially acceptable, is that because we are more prude or more moral?
I think what a lot of people identify as ‘prude’ culture is just another perspective of an attempt at being more moral and inclusive.
adult art being restricted from most Lemmy instances
That one is probably a liability issue. Especially a problem with real-life porn, but even with drawn material, you’ll often get characters which don’t look like adults. So then the mods would have to review each post, which is too much work, and they’d also likely see shit they’d rather not.
Considering this platform is mostly volunteers, if not fully, it’s just not worth it.So what’s the worst that could happen if some fake artistic character doesn’t have its drawn tit censored?
If that “fake artistic character” is a minor, that’s CSAM in some jurisdictions, and that leaves the instance admin legally on the hook for a whole range of offenses which are punishable by incarceration, huge fines, and/or life on a sex offenders register, and in some places, chemical castration.
So yeah, not near as fucking innocent as you make it out to be.
I didn’t make it out to be anything, I asked a question.
And what idiot country would not just give a warning and say remove the drawing if someone was offended?
I doubt they would use all these draconian punishments as if they didn’t see any difference with someone raping a baby and putting it online.Because CSAM isn’t something you should be giving ‘warnings’ about.
If you’re drawing something that could be construed as CSAM then you need to have a word with yourself but we’re all adult enough to know that some people just like testing where the line is, or knitting where it is and remaining just shy of it then feign ignorance.
Because CSAM isn’t something you should be giving ‘warnings’ about.
Obviously.
But I think the problem lies in “could be construed as CSAM”.
That is subjective.
I think because it’s such a heavy thing people are extremely paranoid and overreacting/self-censoring their art.
Not into manga/anime of which I know some is definitely over the line but for the rest I have never encountered drawn art (w possibly minors) of which I saw the intention as getting sexual pleasure from it.Anyway, this extreme subject aside people are definitely becoming more prudish IMO.
I think at least part of it is a backlash against the proliferation of pornography (its shocking just how prolific and how degrading porn actually is compared to the ‘good ‘ol days’). A lot of youngsters were first confronted with porn as children through their smartphones.
But a lot of it also has to do with changing attitudes towards woman and sexuality. We’ve had corporations marketing woman and teen girls as sex objects for decades now, but we now also have an increase of violence against woman and we have the manosphere and far-right extremists campaigning against basic woman’s rights like abortion, equal pay and whatnot.
So I guess the real question is, are more people taking offense of nudity because of their conservative beliefs? Or are more people viewing nudity in popular media as a means of sexualizing (and thus degrading) women?
sexualizing (and thus degrading)
That core attitude is a big part why I can’t respect this new secular Mormonism. There’s nothing degrading about sexualization. The very idea of it is tied to the idea that a woman’s worth is tied up in her virginity, which is a concept born from the patriarchal ownership of women. Sexualization is only degrading to property because it reduces the value of the property. Anyone who claims they don’t see women as property but that sexualization does degrade women is incredibly confused.
The sexualization is not a problem on its own the objectification that often comes along with it is as well as the “unspoken” rule that only allows conventionally attractive people to be viewed in a sexual context.
People don’t lose their personhood by being, acting or shown in a sexual context but many do absolutely not view it that way.
The problem i see is that since this mostly happens in visual media without context all meaning it could have is more often than not lost. If sexual content was created with a positive attitude we would see much more diversity. It is very obvious that it caters to people objectifying the protagonists and therefore its not that easy to blatantly approve of it.
This should off course not translate to shaming people in general but it should trigger nuanced debate and action.
I see a lot of (also valid) reasons.
But I’m going to say: “They drink. They fuck.” not so much anymore.
The generations are becoming more sterile and cold.
And what bothers me the most is how boring (in general) the youth is.
Mainstream obedient consumers and worker drones.
