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  • EchoCT@lemmy.mltoAsklemmy@lemmy.mlAre you a 'tankie'
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    5 months ago

    That’s interesting… Communism is by definition stateless and without significant hierarchy. I don’t think other Tankies would disagree with me there.

    The ideological difference is in how we achieve communism. I would really suggest reading ‘What is to be Done’ by Lenin. It’s a real short read but was one of the things that sold me on Marxism-Leninism vs. regular “Communism is a neat idea”

    Capitalism will sell you the “you’re your own boss, go forth an conquer” all while keeping you under their heel. There is no equality or opportunity there; but even worse is that they will worm their way into any system that does not harshly and consistently fight back against them. Ergo the need for a ‘communist’ (or rather pursuing communism) state.

    That then leads into “Well how does the state go away once we’ve got communism?” That’s a whole 'nother can of worms…









  • A: Nordic systems like that are by definition not a form of economic socialism.

    B: Gonna make an assumption that you using Tankie was likely referencing some authoritarian policy and just grouping them all under ‘tankie’ as a generic insult like most .world liberals. Leninists or other ML flavors are not tankies.

    I don’t necessarily agree with down voting just for the inaccuracies of A. The boring ‘tankie’ this and ‘tankie’ that from the libs is getting REAL old though. They can’t even borrow an insult correctly. I have no issues with memes and banning people for that as those people clearly have no intention of serious conversation.

    It’s exhausting to the point that you were likely dismissed the moment that happened. I know it’s bad for spreading ideas and I don’t really like it. That said, explaining the real definition and real points of debate for the 100th time when really only every 10th person had an honest desire to learn/share is trying to say the least.

    As an authoritarian leaning Leninists I will gladly tell you why Anarchism and Libertarian Socialism inevitably fail though if you want.