What exactly about 4chan are you looking for?

How does 4chan’s design differ from traditional forums, really? There’s less moderation and more anonymity than you might usually expect, but the very nature of ActivityPub means that aspect doesn’t really make as much sense in a federated forum.

So do you just want something like Lemmy but without nested comments or upvoting, and only sorting posts by new and comments by old, the way a traditional forum does? For that you might be able to try LemmyBB which is a front-end to Lemmy that says it’s supposed to look like phpBB forums. (Unfortunately I can’t verify because the two domains its Readme claims run that software are both no longer active.) Or you could try Morum, forum software based not in ActivityPub but Matrix. There are also plugins for non-federated forum software, like Discourse which aim to enable ActivityPub integration with their forums.

Is there some other feature of 4chan that you want to see?

Yeah it’s officially built in to Lemmy’s web UI too.

Yeah! Fuck fun!

Unless there’s room to back the trailer further in, I don’t think parking a car in front of it is an option. You’d be blocking the footpath.

IRC as in the old-school chat protocol?

It kinda felt like exploring Mars. But eventually I found things

Even the world wide web felt like that until shockingly recently. I remember circa 2005 just typing in random words .com and seeing what you’d find, or discovering a cool new website by word of mouth at school.

I remember vising pig.com and discovering a delightful page consisting of nothing more than a giant picture of a pig and the text “this domain is for sale” that lasted years. These days it’s probably one of those shitty for sale landing pages.

Reddit is notorious for astroturfing

The worst is when a business are the moderators of the subreddit about their business. This used to be against the rules, I’m pretty sure, but was never enforced and I think at some point they silently dropped that rule. It creates a gross conflict of interest.

I’m not sure I agree that disabling downvoting really solves the problem. It might help, but not a huge amount. Because you still end up with people upvoting stuff they like and not upvoting stuff they don’t. So instead of being +1/-1 it becomes +1/+0. The stuff that they would have downvoted still ends up sinking towards the bottom, just perhaps not quite as quickly as otherwise.

I do think your thoughts about quote Xits are really interesting though. It’s a two-edged sword. On the one hand, by amplifying what you’re disagreeing with you do also provide an opportunity for more people (rather than less, as on Reddit) to be exposed to it, potentially changing their mind. On the other hand, it’s a tool ripe for abuse and creating more harassment, especially since the people you’re amplifying it to are usually primed to agree with you.

On Lemmy the safeguard to mod abuse is instance admins. On Reddit this can take place, but rarely does. The only time admins on Reddit really step in is when mods are allowing illegal behaviour on their sub, or when mods are protesting against their own shitty behaviour. But on Lemmy it’s much easier to reach out to an instance’s admins if something is going wrong. Mod actions are all public, so you can create a post explaining what happened and it’s not just a “he said/she said” situation.

If they aren’t being responsive to feedback, the appropriate response is to start up a new community, preferably on a different instance. Or, in the extreme case, to block that instance entirely. You can even build a consensus to doing this with a “panel” consisting of…every user on the platform. That’s essentially how [email protected] became the de facto Star Trek meme community, rather than [email protected], after the mods of the latter community were shown to be abusing their powers and the instance admins refused to take remedial action.

I think you missed their point. Yes, the specific beliefs held by the Reddit hivemind are specific to that platform. But the idea that Reddit has a hivemind is a natural human factor. So Reddit’s hivemind might be a centre-left liberal hivemind, HN’s might be more libertarian, and Lemmy’s is more leftist. But there’s some degree of hivemind on any platform that exposes users too each others’ content and where participating in those public discussions is the point.

A site like YouTube or Facebook lacks as much of a hivemind effect, because people aren’t on there for the discussion. They’re on YT for the videos, or on FB largely for their friends. Though both YT and FB comment sections are also proof that lacking a hivemind is also not a sign of quality.

It’s the eternal September.

If it wasn’t for the shitty European weather I’d be seriously considering moving there, tbh. Have become fully orange-pilled over the last few years.

Yeah, the catch here is that it’s a feature that my native language does at least sort of have, just applied in a way that makes it not clear. When it’s a feature I’m completely unfamiliar with, I’m more likely to be on guard for it, if I’ve learnt it. But here I didn’t even think about it, because it was an element I am familiar with, so I never second-guessed my intuition, even though that intuition was wrong.

Merci !

Yeah, sort of. I also use “yous” frequently as part of my dialect regularly. But it’s certainly an informal usage that I would not normally use in written communication.

I actually suspect, though I haven’t investigated it enough to be confident, that there may be something else going on. That there’s possibly a difference—in my dialect, at least—between 2nd person plural “multiple specific people” and “a general large audience”. And that “yous” might only be appropriate in the former.

The biggest, most monstrous dildo you can find.

He never uses it. Just befriends it and talks to it like in the original. Just leave the possibility hanging there.

English is the only language I’m even vaguely proficient in, really.

Le francais est le loin ma deuxieme langue la plus forte. Mais ce n’est toujours pas tres bon, et je dois passer beaucoup de temps pour ecrire dans francais, et generalement rechercher quelques mots ou expressions. Mais ma grammaire est assez bonne, je pense.

I also spent a few years learning Spanish, but almost none of it stuck. And a few years learning Korean while living in Korea. I learnt a few of the necessary words and phrases relating to restaurants and taxis, and some very rudimentary grammar. And being able to read the script is a neat party trick. And one year of actual Vietnamese education + a few more years of peripheral exposure to the language while I lived there. Even less of it stuck than the Spanish though.

Oh damn. It didn’t even occur to me that we were talking plural here lol

Obviously you’re right.

edit: I honestly hate the fact that English doesn’t have a non-vernacular way to distinguish between singular and plural in the 2nd person. Makes it so much harder to get my head around this sort of situation. “What languages do yous speak?” Would make it so much easier!

(Or, let’s be honest, more likely « Quelles langues parles-tu ? »)

Zed shell.

Pseudo.

Ess ess aitch.