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Sorry brother this makes me twitchy. Needs air.

You have a very strange way of communicating but I see your point.

Is this with the intention of excluding bots?

This has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.

I don’t see your point I’m sorry. This would make it easier for Google to exclude small competitors.

I do see Google’s behavior and I’m certain that they will do their best to capture this as they have everything else.

However, it’s an absurdity to suggest that we should not develop new protocols because google will act to ensure they have the largest market share.

Honestly not sure what’s going on in this thread.

Don’t invent the internet because then you will have internet companies.

I’m really struggling to follow your logic here. You’re saying they already have the most popular password manager so we shouldn’t support a next gen, more secure, open standard because Google will have the most popular client for that also?

The obvious problem with this reasoning is that… there will be alternatives of you don’t wish to use googles implementation.

How do you create protocols immune to capture?

So we shouldn’t have created HTTP because Google might appear?

that’s quite a leap.

Yes google does have a lot of control over the HTML and HTTP specs because they control the most popular web browser. Whether people are or will in the future be “locked in” to google for that reason is debatable.

Regardless, the potential for a company to dominate the implementation of a specification is not a reason not to create said specification.

I’ve had trouble with them with my gear.

I intend to continue with keepassxc wherever possible until compatibility is built out.

What propietary bs? It’s an open standard.

I disagree.

LibreOffice is a flagship FOSS project - they have delivered genuine benefits to users over a long period of time with no shady financing arrangements or other encumberances - few projects can claim this outstanding status.

They could not have achieved that status if they were dancing along to Microsoft’s merry jig. With very limited resources LO can’t implement microsoft’s proprietary features.

OnlyOffice by comparisson is opensource but has a paid tier intended for corporate clients. That being the case they really need to offer better compatibility.

That’s right. I think vibecoding generally refers to people who don’t understand code and don’t have the ability to plan around potential problems.

Oh sure.

OnlyOffice compatability with MS is much, much better than LO.

However, I think LO is focused on compatibility with the spec rather than MS - so its an ideological thing. Not much comfort if you want comments in documents I guess.

OpenOffice hasn’t released a major version since 2013.

My team uses LibreOffice exclusively, and extensively. It’s fine.

Why can’t passion projects be a thing anymore ? Because they can be decompiled ?

LLMs are perfectly capable of writing correct code

My understanding is that this is only partly true.

The problem as I understand it is that an LLM can create a code base for a prompt like “create an android app where I can record my medications”, and it might be “correct” and surprisingly usable. However, as your app evolves and “develops” it will be a mess, and the cognitive load quickly becomes unbearable. Everything feature breaks a heap of stuff and every fix breaks more things.

With the greatest respect, I already know as much as I wish to on this topic and do not wish to compare our differing opinions at this time.

Google is responsible for many things but I don’t think this is one.