cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/57576884
There’s so many ways to interact with the Fediverse. The most popular, by far, seems to be Mastodon, but Lemmy, Misskey, and Pixelfed are also relatively popular. Kbin used to be popular, but it has apparently been abandoned, and is mostly dead at this point.
I recently learned that Mbin is a thing, checked it out, and it looked really cool! Has anyone used it? How different is it from Lemmy? I hear they have better integration with Mastodon.
What Fediverse services do you actually, regularly use?
For me, it’s mostly Lemmy, though I do hop on Mastodon every now and then.
Mostly Hubzilla. Also (streams), WriteFreely and Lemmy for special purposes.
I’m an Mbin user.
Mbin is a fork of kbin. Kbin’s dev didn’t really trust people much, so he wanted to have sole control over what code gets added to kbin. Which led to issues when he wasn’t available and development just came to a halt for months because no one could accept changes anymore. The other devs wanted more control so they could actually get shit done, so they decided to fork the project instead.
How different is it from Lemmy? I hear they have better integration with Mastodon.
I think the biggest difference is really the fact that you can subscribe to not just communities but also users. This is where the superior Mastodon compatibility comes into play by allowing us to see posts that don’t mention communities. Lemmy only sees Mastodon posts if they mention a community explicitly or an Mbin user has interacted with it.
There’s also other stuff like public upvotes, boosting, tags, reputation (karma), and custom community CSS. I don’t really know Lemmy well enough to give a full list of where they differ.
I’m an Mbin user.
The Fediverse is pretty cool… Hello, Mbin user!
you can subscribe to not just communities but also users.
Oh, that’s interesting.
Not sure what the point of public upvotes is, or what boosting is, but tags and custom CSS sounds cool. How’s my Mbin karma?! IDK if that’s how it works… I’ve signed up on your same instance, I’ll see how it goes.
Thank you for your comment!
Not sure what the point of public upvotes is,
Well, you can see who upvoted something. kbin also allowed seeing downvotes, but that got removed because of worries about harassment.
By looking at who upvoted a specific post you liked, you can find like-minded people to follow. I also find it cool to see the different instances and platforms the upvotes come from.
Boosting is a bit complicated. It’s supposed to be retweeting basically, and does work that way under the hood. Posts boosted from Mbin do appear that way from Mastodon. However, I don’t think Mbin itself currently treats boosts as more than just an even more public upvote (with regular upvotes you can see who upvoted a post, not what posts a user upvoted; boosts are publically listed on profiles).
Hmm I see.
Not sure how much use I’d get of public upvotes, personally, but boosting/re-posting seems like a genuinely nice feature.
How’s my Mbin karma
It’s 2500~, but it doesn’t affect anything on Mbin, so there’s no point worrying about itThanks! Yeah, I have no idea how that’s even calculated or whatever so… If it doesn’t even affect anything, I don’t see why I would care lol
It’s basically the same as Reddit karma, it’s just the sum of upvotes+downvotes you got
If it doesn’t even affect anything, I don’t see why I would care lol
Same, idc, but some people care about it. Also piefed cares, I think it puts a red icon in the username of the users with negative reputation and their posts start with 0 upvotes instead of 1. (If I’m not mistaken)
It’s basically the same as Reddit karma, it’s just the sum of upvotes+downvotes you got
There’s one difference: boosts give you +2 reputation points.
Meh, I suppose!!! Thanks for the info~ :D
Kbin’s dev didn’t really trust people much, so he wanted to have sole control over what code gets added to kbin
The developer of Kbin is an absolute genius and Kbin was one of the most beautiful and original things ever done in the Fediverse, with a hybridization between microblogging and threadiverse like never seen before. It’s a real shame that he ended support for Kbin, but I think he got burned out…
I think the biggest difference is really the fact that you can subscribe to not just communities but also users
This is an added value, but it was also a critical aspect. The fact of having allowed to follow users and not only communities (magazines) has determined a significant slowdown of the server.
Furthermore, this great added value of joining microblogging to threadiverse, does not make the interface very easy to read. This was taken sic et simpliciter from Mbin, without further developments. Perhaps, if the original developer had remained active, he could have taken the responsibility of making some sensible changes to the Knin interface…
Is there plans for an Mbin mobile app?
There’s Interstellar which is made by the admin of my instance. I don’t know if the Mbin devs have plans for their own official app.
I’m not entirely sure what makes “subscribing to users” different from following people on social media. Can you explain?
Oh, that’s what I meant. And Mbin calls it following too. I just said “subscribing” because it’s the same action behind the scenes, just different terms to refer to it, and I was using “communities” first in the same sentence.
subscribe to not just communities but also users
Ah got it. Context threw me off I see what you mean now
Mostly Lemmy, but also Peertube, rarely Mastodon I also have accounts on other Fediverse services but I don’t use it
I’ve been using Mastodon for eight years and got involved with hosting a small instance for some years now. Also running a Bookwyrm instance and, since a few days, this Lemmy instance which will remain single user most likely.
I have several more Mastodon accounts I’m switching between and inactive Pixelfed, GoToSocial and Friendica accounts.
this Lemmy instance which will remain single user most likely.
You’re an evil person, keeping a name as cool as nocturnal garden all to yourself… Where has compassion gone? The world… The world is falling apart, one cool server-name at a time… /j
Hehe thanks! Not 100% decided yet but since it’s running on my homeserver and not some VPS I guess I won’t open except for friends maybe.
Mastodon, Pixelfed, Lemmy and Bookwyrm. They all seem to cover most of my social media needs which (in all other cases beside Lemmy) can be described as shouting in the void and being happy if someone else is there too.
(in all other cases beside Lemmy) can be described as shouting in the void and being happy if someone else is there too.
Yeah, I get this, to be honest.
Though, I do feel the same way with the centralized social media platforms. I mean, if I make a Tumblr post, I’m really not expecting people to see it. If I just Tweet, as opposed to Tweeting at someone, I don’t really expect engagement either… YT videos, Instagram posts… Unless my friends and family use the apps — which is another issue altogether, since I could try to get them to join — I just shouting in the void.
I think it’s the lack of theme. Lemmy makes you post with the theme of the community you post to, so it’s kind of implied that your posts will reach people that are interested in what you posted. That’s kind of how tags work on Mastodon and Twitter, I guess, but it’s not quite the same thing.
Mastodon, Lemmy, Goto Social, Pixelfed, Bookwyrm.
Peertibes default no federation thing is too frustrating for me to deal with
Mastodon, via jorts.horse. I use it mainly to shitpost, and occasionally catch up on news.
PeerTube, via spectra.video. It was part of an effort to switch away from YouTube, but due to the abysymal discoverability, I am forced to concur that it hasn’t been doing well as a replacement. I now just use Grayjay to see videos, regardless of platforms.
For now, I use Lemmy via lemmy.cafe. However, when PieFed gets a stable app, I plan to switch over to it, probably via feddit.online.
Maybe I’ll try out Loops when it gains federation support.
However, when PieFed gets a stable app, I plan to switch over to it
Yeah, lots of people have been talking highly of PieFed.
Maybe I’ll try out Loops when it gains federation support.
Oh, no Fed yet?! Dang…
In random order
Loops
Peertube very sparingly. Youtube is still king.
Lemmy. Nuked my 14 year old Reddit account today. Lemmy is great.
Pixelfed
Mastodon
Wordpress if that is counted as federated
Gosh, I have to try out Loops…
Lemmy. Nuked my 14 year old Reddit account today. Lemmy is great.
NGL, I think Lemmy is better than Reddit. I enjoy it more. I can’t put my finger on why, though… They’re basically the same… Maybe it’s just a UI issue.
I do believe the type of people and lack of the karma system also makes it better. People do anything to get some karma.
Criiiinge…
I can tell you why, it’s the absolutely shitty Reddit mobile app that’s filled with annoying ads. Meanwhile, Lemmy has some really good third-party apps
Well, no, it is not that… My Reddit app has no ads. I vanced it.
I don’t get ads on anything, nowadays. I can imagine how that might sour the experience tho.
The Lemmy apps are way better than the Reddit app tho, that’s for sure!
Wordpress if that is counted as federated
It’s an option for the blog owners to select, but it’s more federated than Loops (which currently isn’t federated at all). As a random example, here is a Wordpress blog post that was federated out to Mastodon, and then federated out to PieFed.
I did try to federate my blog to Mastodon. Haven’t made a post in a long time though, so I can’t tell if it works or not.
Lemmy, Sharkey (like Mastodon but with more features), and WAFRN (the fediverse’s Tumblr alternative)
Other than Lemmy, I’ve got a self-hosted and federated Matrix instance. I don’t actually do much with Matrix at the moment, it’s mostly the result of me tinkering with self-hosted services. I did recently bridge it to Discord, and I’ve let my friends know it’s a potential alternative if Discord continues going down the shitter.
Discord continues going down the shitter.
How so? And what do you mean bridge Matrix to Discord?
Mostly referring to the recent rumblings about their potential IPO. Once shareholders get their hands on something, it’s all downhill.
Matrix supports “bridges” for a number of third party services so you can keep in contact with friends who haven’t made the transition to federated services.
Cool :D Thanks for the link, I’ll definitely be checking that out~
Once shareholders get their hands on something
We’ll see I guess…
I mainly use Lemmy (infosec.pub) and I sometimes use Mastodon (mstdn.plus).
Lemmy and Matrix. And I don’t use Matrix a helluva lot.
I’m currently busy setting up my own Lemmy instance and PeerTube instance. Before the Fediverse, YT and Reddit were basically the only things I used, I was never a big fan of twitter-like social media. So those slot in nicely into those itches to scratch. (although there are still some creators I follow on YT, I have been watching it a lot less after getting serious with PeerTube)
Can you find a lot of content on PeerTube? What do you look for on there?
By now: Yeah, there are some nice creators on PeerTube. Overall, it feels a bit more like old YouTube, many more people just creating because they want to, instead of chasing fame, as well as bizarre and weird little videos here and there. One advantage of it: It has much better native embedding into Lemmy (at least on newer versions)!
Much like in other fedi-places, it’s work to curate your own feed instead of having algorithms feed you. I have ADHD, so usually, I have some video or something running on my second screen while working on other stuff, and whenever my attention is spent, I switch to there and scour the recent or trending feed (or new vids from subscribers) for something interesting to share and watch.
For anyone interested - I am always happy to plug [email protected] - we recently hit 200 subscribers and have been steadily growing. If you are looking for an instance to join, I am still tinkering with it, but mine is open to new applications for as long as the server resources allow.
Hmmm, I see… I’m interested in getting into PeerTube and dropping YT, partially, at least, so that’s good to know.
I see you talk about EU regulations in your instance. Is it hosted in the EU? If that’s the case, I’d love to join it! :D
I see you talk about EU regulations in your instance. Is it hosted in the EU? If that’s the case, I’d love to join it! :D
Yupp, hosted in Finland over a German provider (Hetzner)
Well, I’m in there!!!
You’re a mime?! That’s so cool! :D
Yes i am! :-) thanks.
Mastodon and MakerTube
…And Lemmy?!
duh
I shan’t assume even the obvious!!!
