I installed Arch once & it took less than 30mins to complete. Still using the same install, as it has literally never broken. This comic literally applies to those people who use Arch incorrectly…
About the same. Been using my arch install with KDE for about 5 years with no major problems at all. I use systemd boot so I’ve not had the issue with grub as other people seem to have had.
I’ve actually been meaning to give systemd boot a try. Been using grub just fine though & I’ve never actually had any problems with it…
Why the insult at vegans? Is it 2015 again?
Plus if anything Debian is more stringent regarding proprietary packages than Arch. Arch package manager will let you install open source drivers or proprietary drivers equally. If adhering to “extreme” moral values is the joke about being labelled vegan, then debian is the vegan one.
What has changed significantly since 2015?
It’s a little silly to look at a whole nearly 10 years and not recognize culture has changed significantly, but here’s an example considering the other reply failed to produce one:
Merely 1 year before, the internet was roiled by absolute massive drama that was basically masterminded by proto-incels upset that women were in the video game industry. They were extremely successful in framing a jilted ex’s story as somehow a question of ethics. It was not only impressive how seriously they were taken, but some aspects were just unquestioned as just “how the internet was” like making depictions of these public figures being beaten to a bloody pulp, when nowadays the kids have been having to make euphemisms for implying someone dying in any way to get around censors. It even spilled over into 2015, which is why I can even use it as an example for that year.
In comparison, Gamergate 2 happened a few weeks ago. Its likely not many people here will even realize that even happened, and those that do recognize it was a whimpering yelp at best compared to the OG.
Ah true, censorship really wasn’t quite as bad in 2015 yet, point taken
That’s your takeaway?
Many aspects of our society and culture including the fact that in the early teens random jokes at vegan’s expense were seen as normal rather than a fuck move
Lol. That hasn’t changed.
Yes it has, get used to it.
oh look. it’s here to tell us it’s vegan.
No, here to tell you to go vegan. Your gluttony doesn’t justify what’s done to so many animals.
And you wonder why jokes come at your expense.
Of all the distros I’ve hopped over the last 25 years, the most self destructive one has to have been Ubuntu.
I use NixOS btw
same here! haven’t borked my system once since using nixOS
Oh I have, but then I just roll back.
Lucky you, straight up doesn’t work on my new laptop.
Tried the unstable installer?
Installation worked, it was just the usual Nvidia stuff and this time it was way above my skills.
Ahh man gotta love NVIDIA. Most of my machines have an NVIDIA GPU, but I’ve had only a few minor issues along the way. Mostly from me not reading things correctly.
Saw issues with flickering electron applications, sleep somehow running the GPU until my battery was drained, hyprland just saying not today and random crashes here and there.
Systems are pretty stable now, laptop runs fine in hybrid mode (AMD / NVIDIA) and I removed almost all electron applications.
I’ve found if I can’t figure something out I’ll start a new module for another package. But I guess if it’s something “mission critical” in your case a GPU then it’s pretty hard to do much else.
Yeah, I need GPU for CUDA, so it needs to work. It also doubles as my gaming laptop, which I could live without, but it would be suboptimal.
Meanwhile in Gentoo: Still compiling.
Oh wait: binpkgs, update is done and I don’t have look at NixOS anymore. [=
Arch users overreacting to a meme is not helping refute it. I use arch, btw.
To every arch meme action, there is an arch user overreaction.
It’s what makes it fun.
Also, this whole meme misses out on the whole fun factor of getting everything setup exactly how you want and all the learning along the way. The Arch user is way more likely to fix any issues that come up in the future rather than just nuking the install and starting over Windows-style like this meme suggests.
Arch user rage bait and I guess I fell for it. I use arch btw.
If you actually want to use your machine, keeping the machine from nuking itself shouldn’t be a hobby on its own. I need a reliable platform to work on, not a minefield on a fault line.
Don’t know what you’ve been using but I sure wouldn’t describe Arch as any of that. Once things are setup, I’ve extremely rarely run into issues that I didn’t cause myself.
“That I didn’t cause myself” is basically self-gaslighting. Using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used shouldn’t cause any issues. Regular updates shouldn’t cause issues. Sure, it can happen, but it shouldn’t be the norm.
Recognizing your own mistakes is self-gaslighting now? FFS. And making a mistake sure is not “using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used.”
Sometimes we make mistakes, it’s okay. If I wanted my OS to coddle me I wouldn’t be using Linux.
Doing an update is not a mistake.
Again, this is exactly how the system is supposed to be used. You run whatever the update command is on your system occasionally. If that regularly breaks your system, the OS is not a stable platform. That might have its reasons, but it doesn’t change the facts.
It’s not a fact that updates regularly break the system. I’ve been using Arch for like 20 years now and I can count the amount of times that’s happened to me on one hand. I can do the same for CentOS and other distros as well.
It also wasn’t what I was referring to when I said I broke my shit by a mistake so you’re sticking words in my mouth.
Then you either have very large hands or don’t update that much. When I did use Arch for a while, Pacman often enough broke some stuff.
It also wasn’t what I was referring to when I said I broke my shit by a mistake so you’re sticking words in my mouth.
No, I interpret your words in a way appropriate here. You said, that only mistakes cause errors, I said that updates caused errors, and that I don’t think updates count as mistakes. So either you think that updating is a mistake, or we have fundamentally different experiences using Arch. I’m only sticking the shit in your mouth that you left their in the first place.
Sometimes nuking and resetting up is faster than fixing the problem.
Seems more like an opportunity to learn then if that’s the case. Fixing things has almost never taken me longer than a full reinstall.
fixing things have taken me longer but i learn a lot on the way so I’m not complaining :)
I presume you don’t host any services.
You presume incorrect
Having a button to reinstall would make it even faster. Or at least a rollback button
the fucking fedora tip. this meme is so goddamn cringe. Also why attack vegans?
Installed with archinstall and got it up and running in less than 30 minutes. Assuming you have used linux before it really shouldn’t take too long, i use arch btw
Inaccurate. Everyone knows vegans prefer Debian.
I can only laugh at the comics they need to make to justify their distros. I use my Arch machine for work and it works far better than when I was using Debian. Also I am not putting up with an ancient kernel and Nvidia drivers. I even have to setup pipewire manually on debian and on Fedora it’s codecs. Both ridiculous.
Is the joke supposed to be that vegans can’t read instructions?
the gentoo user is still selecting kernel options they will never need while libre office compiles
If you disable cache.nixos.org you too can have gentoo but with nixos 😏
Fake. What about installing the GPU drivers?
Author: “I use Fedora BTW”
nowadays archinstall will get you up and running nice and quick. I broke my setup the other day by misusing paru. I wish arch didn’t have this reputation. other than me uninstalling my own display manager it’s been perfectly stable through every update since I installed it years ago. the wiki has incredible amounts of digestible information that has helped me set up anything I want. it’s true that it can be more difficult than other distros, and there are some elitists. but it’s a good choice for people who like to tinker.
The archwiki is a great Linux resource, even for non-arch folks!
