I think with inflation a picture is only worth 700 words.
S6E4 Game Changers dropped literally yesterday and you wasted no time recycling the joke
That’s a pretty detailed prompt.
Why would one unuse Arch btw?
Arch is only the larval stage. When a Linuxite consumes enough CLI, they metamorphose into one of two adult forms: a Void user, or a NixOS user. As these two adult forms are incompatible, this is a rare case of species divergence within a life cycle. Even more oddly, like the axolotl, many Arch users never leave the larval stage, and continue living comfortably in their ecological niche.
Retired form of Linuxite is called Gentoo user
Wow, this is so well explained, I’m making it my personal copypasta!
If NixOS and Void are the adult form then what is the form of FreeBSD and OpenBSD? Old form?
Different species. They’re not in the Linuxite clade.
The Linuxite taxa have far higher diversity due to faster mutation rates; the BSD genus has far fewer species, and can’t cross-breed with Linuxites.
They are the alolan forms.
Daamn, I’m a pupa (Arch -> Debian + Nix)
Yeah, that comment leaves out the “I learned a lot from Arch, but don’t have the time to manage evertything anymore” crowd, which goes Ubuntu -> Arch -> Debian/Mint/Fedora
I discovered that EndeavourOS satisfied that for me, without me having to give up Arch. And snapper+btrfs-grub has eliminated any interest in messing about with the new line of immutable systems. The only tempting distro I might spend time in is Chimera Linux (link, b/c of an unfortunate naming conflict) which (a little hilariously) is an attempt to make a Linux distro that’s purely Gnu-free. Chimera also runs dinit instead of systemd, and that’s interesting.
Anyway, there are a couple of options that let a user stay in Arch but make things less… fussy.
I gunked up my system with too much AUR, even with endeavourOS. NixOS might be a bit more suitable for my ADHD brain.
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Switching to nixos?
As someone who switched to nixos - eh. So much hacking to make dev stuff work really kills the magic that nixos is supposed to be :|
Yeah, it is a lot of initial work, but once you got your shell.nix or flake.nix in place it is really nice, to not have to deal with different dependencies and versions in different projects.
But you can also archive the same on any distro with the nix package manager.
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It’s an investment for the next time you install on a new dev machine. After install, I will literally run a single command to return to the exact state of my dev environment.
We get it, you used arch. You don’t need to write a thousand words telling us.
But the Wiki is soooo nice! And have you seen AUR!
/s
The AUR is legitimately the biggest thing keeping me on Endeavor
I couldn’t figure out how to make the wifi on my Debian machine reliable so I replaced the default wifi manager front-end and backend with iwctl, the same thing Arch uses by default. It seems to be working but now I have an unholy abomination of Debian spliced with Arch DNA.
A simple fix is to replace the rest of Debian with Arch.
Every distro is an unholy abomination made by plugging the maintainers’ favorite parts together
I used to run Arch, btw
I don’t see what the problem is with Arch Linux and why it gets so much flak. I am not a Linux expert by any measure, but I use EndeavourOS and find it really use to use (don’t ask me to install from scratch). Its extremely stable and I like the fact that it gets updated constantly.
The only other distro I really liked is MX Linux. My main gripe was that I don’t want to reinstall every so many years. I want to set up an OS and just use it without worrying about it being a temporary thing. But maybe I’ll change my mind in the future.
I’m not for or against any distro really, maybe except Ubuntu and its bloat. I just use what best suits me, which is the whole point of all the different distros.
Manjaro is truly the worst distro of all time and probably helps give arch a bad name
Oracle Linux exists
I use Manjaro, btw.
i think its just people taking the “i use arch btw” meme too seriously and thinking its bad to show or even use it all
Look at the sub in which this is posted 😉. That was the joke 😉.
Its extremely stable
This is why people make fun of arch users
I don’t think this is an “Arch is bad” post, but rather a “Void is good post”. I think the sticker is remove because it’s not relevant to them anymore.
“void does have a pine tree up their ass tho” – Vaxerski
The maintainers? Yeah, I completely agree. No one actually likes any of them… as far as I’m aware… typical Linux geeks, my way or the highway.
For anyone interested, those are stickers from there: https://www.stickermule.com/unixstickers and they cost 1$ with free shipping.
Great to show Linux swag.I’m going to use Debian btw Edit: nvm wifi not working, NixOS it is
Yeah, it’s obvious a jealous Manjaro user stole that dude’s sticker…
Edit: almost forgot… I use arch btw…
I use NixOS btw
No no, that’s ours, find your own
Great, now the song is in my head.
STEALING is against THE LAW
I’ve used arch on one machine now, am a total noob to it, and I really like it. I see what people are raving about and I see no reason to shit on it. I don’t really care if 6 years ago some people were annoying about it
Arch is good, no doubt 👍.
Void is better 😁.
How?
Faster, more stable, no systemd, supports musl and architectures not usually supported by most distros. It’s probably the most stable rolling release distro out there.
Ugly, apt-induced breakup I suppose? :P
no way anyone would voluntarily use apt after using pacman
I unironically prefer
aptoverpacman, simply because my monkeybrain got addicted to runningpacman -S(that was how to update, right?) and I dropped in productivity.aptis just “nah fam, there’s nothing new for you” most days, which gives me the quiet time I want and need.I ran Manjaro BTW. It was nice while it lasted, but Debian is my new friend now.
The difference here is more between release types, I think. Arch is rolling, so there are updates you can get every few minutes. Debian is a rock, and rocks aren’t known for moving a lot.
(The command is
sudo pacman -Syubtw)
Arch is a pain to setup BTW. It’s worth it, though you’d be better using something like the installer for cachyOS to get the same experience
I’m partial to Endeavor OS personally. It’s basically just Arch without the bullshit of setting it up.
All my friends with endeavour are clueless when their system eventually breaks because they haven’t done the manual install and so they haven’t read the wiki and they have no idea how to actually repair their system
I broke my system a few times, but I know what I did. Once I tried to remove mesa and everything it’s a dependency for…not realizing it’s part of the kernel. Another time I messed up my video drivers trying to install Optimus.
Actually a lot of my breaks can be traced to Nvidia being a shitass about supporting Linux. But I need the proprietary drivers for my editing software
It’s absolutely not. Use archinstall. The hardest part is preparing for breakages when you update.
Honestly, I’ve done it so often, it runs automatically. The config stuff I have for years and years, I think I haven’t change shit for ever. Runs.
Friendship ended with Arch. Now Void is my best friend!
Yeah, I don’t think everyone got that from the pic 😂.
That space where the arch sticker was
I know a guy who looks like that.
He’s good at JavaScript.
that’s the best subtle insult i’ve ever heard wow
I didn’t really mean it that way. But subconsciously, ya, maybe.
My friend has that look. Like half-hobbit. And ya, he’s a wizard too.
