• Jeena@jemmy.jeena.net
    24·
    1 year ago

    I never understood what it would help to have the data on a US server. It’s not that difficult to access it there from China. I access my server in Germany via SSH from Korea.

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
      111·
      1 year ago

      What can ByteDance access that China couldn’t just buy from Alphabet or Meta or some other tech company?

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          11·
          1 year ago

          Uh huh, and do you think Alphabet and Meta don’t do that? Do you think if China offered to buy that data they wouldn’t be able to get it? Grow up.

          My point is that we should be taking internet privacy seriously, not just going after foreign companies.

          It’s not okay when the spies are American. Until I see serious action taken against the worst offenders I’ll know this is all theater.

      • Sgn@programming.dev
        17·
        1 year ago

        China can’t buy data from US companies. That’s illegal. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          5·
          1 year ago

          Not yet. There was an executive order to ban selling data to “enemies” that would include China but it hasn’t been implemented.

          Also I’m highly skeptical it’ll work. China can just work through proxies and not buy directly.

      • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org
        28·
        1 year ago

        I feel like the US would ban selling vital data to big enemies, and getting info from ByteDance is free.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          11·
          1 year ago

          The US doesn’t ban selling data, though. China can buy whatever it wants just as easily as harvesting it from ByteDance.

          And I’d hardly call running an entire social media enterprise “free”. If it’s a torjan horse, it’s an entirely unnecessary one.

            • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
              10·
              1 year ago

              The executive order is specifically targeting data brokerage, a practice that is shockingly unregulated. There is no federal law that oversees the collection of and sale of the most intimate details of our lives. And when data is sold to countries of concern, it can become a national security issue.

              It’s good the bare minimum is being implemented… though it’s weird how two months have passed without updates.

              I must point out that this only concerns data being sold to Russia or China, ie, it’s just security theater. I would like to see some restrictions on data being sold to anyone, including so-called US allies. Israel, in particular, collects data on American Palestinians who contact family back in Palestine and uses this to feed its AI that generates kill lists.

          • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org
            17·
            1 year ago

            Internet coverage of that topic is surprisingly limited for what seems to be an easily-thought-of national security risk…

            ByteDance’s capitalist entrepreneurs run the enterprise for them, and they can extort data out, yes, for free.

              • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org
                17·
                1 year ago

                Again, China does not run the company, they just own the leash on the private entrepreneurs who do. That’s one of Deng’s benefits for implementing capitalism. (mildlyinteresting: the word capitalism isn’t capitalized)

                • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                  7·
                  1 year ago

                  China has a massive stake in the company. It’s a huge investment for them. Hardly “free”

                  • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org
                    16·
                    1 year ago

                    It’s a one-time fee that also earns money back compared to the continuous payments to buy from other sources.