the lead dev is a freeze peach absolutist. he’s said some ignorant shit about trans people and when people said “hey, let’s adjust this language” he was like “let’s not get political”
the ladybird dev wants to work with people who want me dead. so. yeah, fuck him. mozilla ain’t great, but they’re the least dangerous engine builders right now. servo would be a better engine for us to rally around, but everyone would rather talk about the less mature, more fascist accepting, project.
nazis are bad. that’s the hill i’m willing to die on. this is bigger than a browser engine.
the whole entire conversation about pronouns was exactly a conversation about this. the request to change to more inclusive pronouns was a request that he make the project more inclusive to people like us, the queer community, who have been getting pushed out of open source ever since brandon eich was named ceo of mozilla. andreas kling’s response was that we were being too sensitive and he didn’t want to scare of contributors by getting too political. the problem is that in saying that, he’s saying he finds one set of contributions and politics acceptable, and another set not.
the same goes for his responses to people asking him to leave twitter. he says he would rather stay on twitter because mastodon is too political. and there it is again. twitter, at the time of the conversation, was already becoming a nazi cesspool that people were leaving en masse, but because his tweets got more engagement there than on mastodon, he stuck with twitter.
i’ll gather some links for you after work, but i’m just… a little surprised you were familiar enough with the situation to know it happened and not familiar enough to know the context for why it mattered
If I recall correctly, Project Trident was M$'s ambitious attempt at a new proprietary browser to replace IE before abandoning it and just reskinning Chrome as ‘Edge’
Usually a Firefox guy but gonna give GNOME web an install for shiggles since I remember safari being fun to play with back in my teenage “hacker” days.
Going from lawful to chaotic, good to evil, we have:
(until they get a new lead dev, Ladybird is definitely not any type of “Good”)
100%, this is either uninformed or some apologia
What’s going on? I’ve seen this new browser engine referenced recently a decent bit but I have no info beyond ‘it’s new and exists’.
the lead dev is a freeze peach absolutist. he’s said some ignorant shit about trans people and when people said “hey, let’s adjust this language” he was like “let’s not get political”
That’s unfortunate :(
What exactly has been said?
Is this really the hill you want to die on and rather have a Chromium monopoly?
the ladybird dev wants to work with people who want me dead. so. yeah, fuck him. mozilla ain’t great, but they’re the least dangerous engine builders right now. servo would be a better engine for us to rally around, but everyone would rather talk about the less mature, more fascist accepting, project.
nazis are bad. that’s the hill i’m willing to die on. this is bigger than a browser engine.
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What the fuck? Do you have a source for this?
the whole entire conversation about pronouns was exactly a conversation about this. the request to change to more inclusive pronouns was a request that he make the project more inclusive to people like us, the queer community, who have been getting pushed out of open source ever since brandon eich was named ceo of mozilla. andreas kling’s response was that we were being too sensitive and he didn’t want to scare of contributors by getting too political. the problem is that in saying that, he’s saying he finds one set of contributions and politics acceptable, and another set not.
the same goes for his responses to people asking him to leave twitter. he says he would rather stay on twitter because mastodon is too political. and there it is again. twitter, at the time of the conversation, was already becoming a nazi cesspool that people were leaving en masse, but because his tweets got more engagement there than on mastodon, he stuck with twitter.
i’ll gather some links for you after work, but i’m just… a little surprised you were familiar enough with the situation to know it happened and not familiar enough to know the context for why it mattered
Mozilla has existed for over 20 years and Chromium still has a monopoly.
Yes, and that’s precisely why we need Ladybird, no matter what pronouns it uses for users.
I prioritize basic human decency over browser engine monopolies, but everyone has their own priorities.
I’d say that Chromium has a monopoly thanks to Mozilla.
Explain
Yes, basic respect for people is far more important than any web browser
(The engine itself is fine though)
Where does Dillo fit into this?
Its got cookies disabled by default, no support for JavaScript, and only partial support for CSS. Just as god intended.
Same box as Links, I think; or maybe the same box as Servo or Ladybird would fit better…
Huh, I didn’t know MSHTML as used in IE was also called Trident. I thought Trident was specifically early Edge before they switched to Blink.
The Edge engine before Blink was called “EdgeHTML”.
If I recall correctly, Project Trident was M$'s ambitious attempt at a new proprietary browser to replace IE before abandoning it and just reskinning Chrome as ‘Edge’
Is there any Servo-based browser? If not, it should be called Serval.
That would be ‘Verso’
https://github.com/versotile-org/verso
Usually a Firefox guy but gonna give GNOME web an install for shiggles since I remember safari being fun to play with back in my teenage “hacker” days.