Does it even make a difference? Would much appreciate some suggestions.
The Voyager app now defaults to lemmy.zip. I really like sh.itjust.works fwiw.
I also can vouch for sh.itjust.works. They have a fair defederation policy and has only gone down a couple times in the two years I’ve been using it. When it has the admin has been quick to address it and provides updates via a matrix chat.
The one downside is that some more niche domains have
degenerateddefederated (thanks autocorrect) from us due to the open enrolment we have (beehaw comes directly to mind). I recall someone linking a website that tracked what servers are federated with each other but I can’t find it now unfortunately.I went here after i read .ee is shutting down , most of the stuff i followed back there i can follow from here
We welcome you to the fold! I tried a few instances when I joined a couple years back but basically never use my alts because SJW ‘just works’ :) I hope you enjoy it as much as I have!
Thanks a ton , i liked .ee culture , hope to have some of the same weirdness here too
I’m really out of the loop. Why is lemm.ee shutting down? I thought it was one of the more sizeable instances.
Admin team was too small and they couldnt find a replacements for people that were leaving , its a ungrateful job i guess ?
Is beehaw still around? I had no idea. I thought they defederated from everyone then I assumed they died out.
They only block lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, and a few small servers.
Its honestly a really pleasant place to be – I see no negativity there.
Oh no! Not beehaw!
I recall someone linking a website that tracked what servers are federated with each other but I can’t find it now unfortunately.
i think you might be referring to Fediseer?
I’m thinking between Zip and db0… I can’t decide 😁
I was too comfortable with lemme.ee (AKA less drama overall than your favorite Lemmy instance) but now I need to deal with this…
Well, I knew from the beginning, that the fediverse works this way, if any we should be grateful we were given a good window to migrate (former fmhy user here lol), and honestly it makes sense, each instance can’t last forever… Not even big sites like Reddit will.
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One thing you should do is grab your data for easy moving, you haven’t already.
Assuming you’re using the default Lemmy web UI (not Voyager, or Photon, or a mobile app, or whatever), click on your username in the top right, and select “Settings”.
On the settings page, there’s a section called “Import/Export Settings”. Click the “Export” button and let your browser download the file.
Then, when you switch instances, you can go into the same Settings page on the new instance, select the file you downloaded, and hit “Import” and you will automatically be resubscribed to the communities you subscribed to.
Wow didn’t know this was an option. Need to migrate my off of lemm.ee then. Thanks for the heads up.
Thank you so so much for showing how to export it. I didn’t want to have to start from scratch in trying to figure out who I followed and who I didn’t. Appreciate it once and again.
Great, I am using voyager. How do I achieve the same goal?
You’ll have to use a browser. Navigate to lemm.ee/settings.
Done that, now how do change servers? Feel free to direct me to tech support if this is not your idea of fun
Press the export button and save the file to your device.
Now find a new instance and import that file.
Edit: follow-up questions welcome
Create a new account on the new server. You can do it in Voyager and just pick a server from the list, or go to that server’s website in a browser.
Later on when you successfully sign up on a different Lemmy instance just go into your new user’s profile settings again (exactly how you just did for https://lemm.ee/settings but it’ll be [YOUR-NEW-LEMMY-INSTANCE]/settings, in there under “Import/Export Settings” look for the Import section and there you can import the file you just exported.
PS - For a quick overview of Lemmy instances you can check out https://lemmyverse.net/?order=active&open=true and/or https://join-lemmy.org/instances
just find another instance and make an account there, I just moved from lemm.ee cause lemmy.today was recommended in the comments on a post about the shutdown.
Voyager doesn’t have the ability to do this in the app, you will have to use a browser
If you have a favorite community you might take a look at the instance they’re hosted out of.
Beyond that, my general advice is to sort Lemmy instances by number of active users, then pick one that’s somewhere between the 10th and 20th largest.
https://lemmy.zip/ is the closest imo.
I see a few people recommending lemmygrad, lemmy.ml and hexbear, I don’t really think you’d enjoy those servers too much unless you are interested in leftism/communism.
also, people will assume you’re a tankie just because your name ends with .ml 😞
Only CIA.World users sauy that stuff.
cia.world gave me a giggle
problem being?
I catch strays because I’m on .ml but I’m not a tankie (I’m left libertarian like Chomsky)
I think everyone who sees Chomsky in a positive overall light should read On Chomsky.
What if I just really like Captain Fantastic?
Tankies are delulu
Marxists tend to be consistently correct and ahead of the curve, thanks to the analytical tool of Dialectical Materialism.
Marxists aren’t the same as tankies
“Tankie” is a pejorative for Marxist, just like “commie” and “pinko.”
Tankies are a specific type of internet communist that support oppressive, authoritarian regimes.
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I’m a part of Lemmy.zip for a few months now. Great server with transparent admins who post about server updates and such. It’s tech-oriented as an instance, but it’s federated, so you still have access to all other servers. I’m a computer nerd, hence why I picked it.
Yeah, lemmy.zip is great.
Anything a bit more…centrist, so to speak?
Lemmy.zip was the centrist rec.
Is it possible to migrate my lemm.ee profile over there, or do I ride this one out until bye bye and then just make a new one?
You can export things like your favorites, but you can’t move profiles.
lemmy.zip is good.
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Marxists are absolutely leftists, if you redefine Leftism to only include Anarchism you are making a severe error in political understanding.
Tankies aren’t Marxists lol
They’re more MAGA than anything. I’ve spent quite some time on Hexbear and .ml. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
They’re pro censorship, anti-free speech, anti human rights, and constantly talk shit about “liberals”. Sounds like a hard authoritarian right to me.
“Tankie” is just the terminally online version of “commie” or “pinko,” it’s just a pejorative for Marxists. The 3 instances you called “tankie” are the 3 biggest Marxist-friendly instances. Both of my 2 accounts are on Hexbear.net and Lemmy.ml, respectively, I’ve spent plenty of time.
Marxists in general are in favor of controlling the speech of the bourgeoisie, as were Marx and Engels:
>6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Marxists are not “anti-free speech,” nor are Hexbear and Lemmy.ml. Rampant misinformation and bigotry should be removed, and is. Marxists, including .ml and Hexbear, are absolutely pro-Human Rights. Marxists do hate liberals, liberals are pro-Capitalism apologists, and thus liberalism has been a target of Socialists of all stripes since liberalism became a thing.
a lost redditor appears, it’s very confused
The ideas that domination is the goal are correct. The domination goes beyond social issues. Owing someone rent puts them in a position to dominate me. Saying the rent is the people’s rent doesn’t rationalize the domination.
Saying the rent is the people’s rent
Well that’s a strawman that nobody says
Marxists do not seek “domination” of others, nor do Socialist countries extract “rent.” Using a portion of the social fund to create infrastructure, social safety nets, advance productivity via new Capital, and more are not the same as a landlord extracting surplus value on the basis of owning a scarce resource like land. I think you’re confused on several areas, like what Marxists want, how Socialist states function, and what “rent” is. If you want, I have theory I can recommend for you.
What no theory does to a mf
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Shit on the political compass all you want, it does help bring a bit of nuance into discussions like this:
To be fair, the political compass absolutely does not bring nuance. All governments are authoritarian, all states are instruments of class opression. What matters is which class is being oppressed, by which. The political compass is closer to astrology for political nerds than a coherent theory.
Would you call communist states (an oxymoron, I know) instruments of class opression?
All governments are authoritiarian, but to what extent?
I more-meant the difference between the libertarian and authoritarian right/left, its a useful distinction to have.
Yes, absolutely. Socialist states governed by Communist Parties are states where the Proletariat oppresses the Bourgeoisie. You can’t simply eliminate all property relations overnight, the role of a proletarian state is to sieze the large firms and key industries that are necessary to maintain that power, and gradually appropriate firms and industry until the entire economy can be publicly owned and planned.
There aren’t really degrees of authoritarian or libertarian in a state, just what circumstances the system finds itself in. At times where class struggle is sharpened, the state employs more drastic measures to maintain the class in charge, and this goes for bourgeois states or proletarian states. It isn’t a decision to be made on a sliding scale, but a reflection of circumstances.
Even comparing Anarchism with Marxism as “libertarian vs authoritarian” isn’t apt. Anarchists also employ authority in overturning class relations, just via a horizontalist approach. Marxist states also are more comprehensively democratic than Capitalist ones, as they spread democracy to the economy, for the many rather than for the few.
Just my 2 cents as a Marxist-Leninist.
Side note: a higher stage Communist society where class has been abolished and the oppressive elements of government that make up the state have thus withered away would not be authoritarian, as there’s no longer class struggle. That’s more of a future thing though, not something that has immediate relevance.
There aren’t really degrees of authoritarian or libertarian in a state, just what circumstances the system finds itself in.
This sounds like that rare thing in political science: a falsifiable assertion. Do you happen to know if anyone has tested it?
I’m not sure how you would test it, outside of looking at states through history, in different contexts. Germany is a good example. Germany in the early 20th century, after World War I, was in serious debt and had rising contradictions that led to increased worker organization. The bourgeoisie was terrified of a Communist uprising, so they employed the Nazis to purge them. After the fall of the Nazis, the system didn’t radically change, but the need for the Nazis as a sort of alter-ego to stamp out Communism was done. They remained Capitalist throughout the entire time, but each change in policy was driven by changing conditions.
Marxists posit that the Mode of Production is the base, which creates the superstructure, which is the laws, ideology, and culture, which shapes the base. This cyclical relationship shows that biggest shaper of policy is the needs of the ruling class, and the conditions they are dealing with. I am not “inventing” this stance, of course, its been here for a long while.
he did say communist governments are authoritarian, in them the capitalist class would be getting oppressed by the state in service of the working class. this is why it’s called the dictatorship of the proletariat - the proletariat should still be getting their interests as a class represented in this arrangement, while bourgious have no special status or access due to their capital.
All governments are authoritarian, all states are instruments of class opression. What matters is which class is being oppressed, by which.
are there any examples of libertarian states?
a relevant passage from This Soviet World by Anna Louise Strong
100%, excellent explanation!
In a neoliberal sense, kinda, but those are really just shifting who is oppressing people to capitalists.
I think that still qualifies as a bourgious dictatorship
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Karl Marx, famous right-winger? Very silly comment.
Auth-right would be fascism.
I wanted to point out that, even though they are authoritarian, they are still leftist. The Political Compass adds a bit of nuance, so there can be a distinction.
Nuance doesn’t seem to be their strong suit
No tankies are authoritarian left.
I commented elsewhere, but all states are authoritarian. What matters is which class is exerting its authority. In Socialist states, that class is the Proletariat against the Bourgeoisie. Marxists are not any more “auth” than other ideologies, and not any less.
States can present as more or less auth depending on the circumstances they are in, when the class struggle is a sharpened contradiction, but that doesn’t mean the state is making a choice to be more or less auth, just that it responds to different circumstances.
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Marxists in general are in favor of controlling the speech of the bourgeoisie, as were Marx and Engels:
>6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Marxists are not “anti-free speech,” nor are Hexbear and Lemmy.ml. Rampant misinformation and bigotry should be removed, and is. Marxists, including .ml and Hexbear, are absolutely pro-Human Rights. Marxists do hate liberals, liberals are pro-Capitalism apologists, and thus liberalism has been a target of Socialists of all stripes since liberalism became a thing.
How do you create so many nearly identical posts? Is it just copy pasta? Is it full automation? I mean holy shit, if I created a bot, it would react to questions like this.
In case you didn’t read that thing here’s that thing again. Ehhh.
In the same boat, though I’ve been here for almost 2 years lol
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oh, I assumed it was a community for Dragon Ball Z fans.
Communities about Anarchism, Generative AI, Copylefts, Neurodivergence, Filesharing, and Free Software.
This sounds like me. Well, apart from the generative AI thing. Let’s see what the dominant stance on it is first
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They are pro-ai-the-technology, they’re not on board with the big Ai companies.
Power hungry admin and uber cringe ai content, pass
db0 works for me.
What do you look for in an instance? Many different instances with different uses and needs.
Where would I find a way to know if an instance aligned with what I wanted or not? I’m supposed to personally find and explore a bunch of different ones?
Ive recently stumbled on Fediseer, where instances can give recommendations, censures and hesitations to other instances. every instance also has its own page with their self-description, stats, recommendations, censures, etc. might be a helpful tool to narrow down the potential instances.
That’s a good tip, it’s a good idea to subscribe to a Lemmy instance that participates in Fediseer (IMO). It helps to keep spammy instances off your own instance hence lower spam posts overall.
A lot of spammers tend to spin up their own Lemmy instances just to spam the rest of the Fediverse, or they’ll create a ton of new accounts on an instance with lax admin/moderation to use for spam later.
You don’t even need to browse the Fediseer website directly, pretty much all Lemmy instances participating in Fediseer will have the “Guarantor” and “Endorsements” links in the sidebar of their homepage.
There’s the “Join Lemmy” tool that shows a list of instances, you can click on them and see if they fit what you want.
join-lemmy.org/ has a list of instances.
have you checked out the porn one? some guy posted like 20 pictures of his dick
Was that someone you?
you can join lemdro.id if you want
sdf.org instance is awesome.
Y’all have a Gemini page too right?
Sh.itjust.works and lemmy.zip, not sure if shitjustworks is general purpose actually
But yeah I signed up for multiple before so id have aged accounts in case my main one went away
If you have a favorite community, move to its instance - /All is showing what all the people on your instance are subscribed to so if you’re on an instance with people you like, c/All will probably have more things you like. Also /Local shows you local posts from your instance which is cool if you’re on a theme instance.
A really small instance may have less /All content (but if you’re on any instance over 500 people it’s probably plenty)
- Sincerely, a pawb.social user
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Just keep in mind you might have to instance hop again if your chosen instance goes down, but that’s OK.
Hmm. Do any of the apps allow you to seamlessly manage more than one?
Most do yes, since that’s how Lemmy works in general
The default web frontend has no such provision. If SDF is down I have to go and navigate to my backup instance like a peasant.
Maybe I should switch to an app. The only trick is that I’ll have to hack it a little bit to make sure it always launches over Tor. Unless I get on Qubes soon.
Well yeah a web front-end wouldn’t have that as it’s intrinsically tied to the instance lol
I know. I was slightly butthurt at the suggestion I’m Lemmying wrong, though. Without third party software, movement between instances isn’t seamless right now, just possible.
Oh, lol definitely didn’t mean to imply that haha, was just saying all the apps I’ve tried (I literally only use mobile to access Lemmy) have the ability to add and swap between accounts on different instances :)
I’m new to this but I’ve found Voyager has served me really well so far. I have two accounts now lemm.ee is going.
Does it provide a way to sync subscriptions across as well?
I believe so. If you click the cog wheel (settings) in voyager and scroll down you have an option to backup / restore and I would assume you could use that?
Most Lemmy apps support switching quickly between instances.
In theory, this could ease the transition when an instance closes, I guess.
In reality, the Internet is for pornography.
It presumably makes it easier to quickly switch between porn-free and porn-full subscription sets.
I say “Presumably”, because I’m above all that… here on my non-porn account.
Plus…there’s probably someone here who carefully separates their Linux Lemmys into one account and their railway and mass transit news Lemmys into another.
Good to know!
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