Bloat taking up disk space doesn’t really matter. Bloat taking up RAM/CPU can affect performance on the other hand.
Wasted performance large scale means wasted resources large scale, like CO2 emissions, energy costs, and hardware that would not be needed without
Somebody please do the math which shows the global delta of CO2 related arch vs Ubuntu bloat. I need to know exactly how many dozens of minutes of vespa usage this is equivalent to per year when taken globally.
Better yet, I need to know how much the global CO2/Water use delta is between the most bloated Linux (mint?) and your average Windows 11 install. Windows 11 phones home for so much bullshit all the time, it’d be good for a laugh.
And here I am, shuddering in disgust at the thought of a Windows 11 phone.
Bloat is one of the last thing I worry about in a distro honestly, Maybe just because I’m a newer user and compared to Windows 10 out of the box even the most bloated distros seem pretty slim.
Because these people are trying to get an OS running on 15 year old dumpster dived laptops. It’s kind of a Linux thing to get it running usably on the biggest old piece of shit you can find. I’ve done similar myself with a Pentium II machine from the late 90s in 2015.
People with modern multiple cores and dozens of GB of RAM are not usually worried about these things.
Honestly fedora with i3 runs well enough on my pentium 4 laptop. It just overheats in summer sometimes. I am thinking about trying LFS on my desktop one day though. That would probably be the least bloat possible for a setup that I’m happy with and I could make fun of arch users.
The weirdos crusading against bloat helped keep distros light weight and performant decades on. It allowed a linux distro to fly on older hardware that was bogged down by newer linux versions. The legacy to this day is that WMs like KDE can actually be fairly light weight and there is still attention paid to not using a lot of resources.
Nowadays I feel like the complainers dont even have a consistent definition of what bloat is and it ranges from command line only users who know theyre crazy and niche but speak up anyway, to people who are just upset if a distros ships with basic default tools like an image viewer or something that opens text files or videos, or drivers.
The whole thing is also silly with how much cheaper ram and storage have gotten. Even moreso because the distro and WM isnt the limiting issue. Yes you can still run a KDE based distro with 2gigs of ram, but as soon as you open your web browser and visit the modern internet the dozen high definition images that load in and videos and javascript.
Even my supposedly “big” Ubuntu install is just 40GB. It has Wayland AND Xorg X11, multiple JDKs, Netbeans, Blender, some Games, even some snaps. My Music folder is almost as big. Together they use only 9% of my 1TB SSD. I back them up onto a 1TB USB stick.
You have a shit ton of bloat. You should get rid of it and just run what matters - neofetch.
Let me pull another docker container image, install a flatpak and update my snaps.
Great video, but could’ve been uploaded to peertube 😛
P.S ubuntu is no more bloated than windows or mac. Probably less so
Would it maybe be easier to put that license in your “about” section instead of at the end of your comments? Or does it not work like that
It’s for AI training. They scape entire comments. Putting it outside of the comments will thus not make it show up in the training data. If they add license stripping to training data, it makes things more difficult but probably more questionable on their end, maybe even possibly illegal. It will come down to detection and enforcement.
Finally, years after they’ve mostly gone away, a good use for those signature blocks forums would offer!
