• Cloudless ☼@feddit.uk
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    8 months ago

    Bloat taking up disk space doesn’t really matter. Bloat taking up RAM/CPU can affect performance on the other hand.

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      8 months ago

      Wasted performance large scale means wasted resources large scale, like CO2 emissions, energy costs, and hardware that would not be needed without

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        8 months ago

        Somebody please do the math which shows the global delta of CO2 related arch vs Ubuntu bloat. I need to know exactly how many dozens of minutes of vespa usage this is equivalent to per year when taken globally.

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    8 months ago

    Bloat is one of the last thing I worry about in a distro honestly, Maybe just because I’m a newer user and compared to Windows 10 out of the box even the most bloated distros seem pretty slim.

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      8 months ago

      Because these people are trying to get an OS running on 15 year old dumpster dived laptops. It’s kind of a Linux thing to get it running usably on the biggest old piece of shit you can find. I’ve done similar myself with a Pentium II machine from the late 90s in 2015.

      People with modern multiple cores and dozens of GB of RAM are not usually worried about these things.

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        8 months ago

        Honestly fedora with i3 runs well enough on my pentium 4 laptop. It just overheats in summer sometimes. I am thinking about trying LFS on my desktop one day though. That would probably be the least bloat possible for a setup that I’m happy with and I could make fun of arch users.

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    8 months ago

    The weirdos crusading against bloat helped keep distros light weight and performant decades on. It allowed a linux distro to fly on older hardware that was bogged down by newer linux versions. The legacy to this day is that WMs like KDE can actually be fairly light weight and there is still attention paid to not using a lot of resources.

    Nowadays I feel like the complainers dont even have a consistent definition of what bloat is and it ranges from command line only users who know theyre crazy and niche but speak up anyway, to people who are just upset if a distros ships with basic default tools like an image viewer or something that opens text files or videos, or drivers.

    The whole thing is also silly with how much cheaper ram and storage have gotten. Even moreso because the distro and WM isnt the limiting issue. Yes you can still run a KDE based distro with 2gigs of ram, but as soon as you open your web browser and visit the modern internet the dozen high definition images that load in and videos and javascript.

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      8 months ago

      Even my supposedly “big” Ubuntu install is just 40GB. It has Wayland AND Xorg X11, multiple JDKs, Netbeans, Blender, some Games, even some snaps. My Music folder is almost as big. Together they use only 9% of my 1TB SSD. I back them up onto a 1TB USB stick.

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        8 months ago

        You have a shit ton of bloat. You should get rid of it and just run what matters - neofetch.