• sebi@lemmy.world
    2101·
    1 month ago

    Who unplugs a cable by pulling on the wire?

  • Lekip@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    159·
    1 month ago

    Had this at my company some time ago. People just don’t understand retention mechanisms I don’t think

    • Malix@sopuli.xyz
      86·
      1 month ago

      when your main stat is strength, and you’ve entirely ignored int/wis

      Seriously though, if the cable doesn’t want to come out with reasonable force, the solution is PROBABLY NOT to apply more force. What kind of cavemen do you have working there?

      • rtxn@lemmy.worldM
        66·
        1 month ago

        cavemen

        Worse. University students.

        I’m a sysadmin at a university. Last semester, we lost five DP cables, two DP-VGA adapters, one graphics card, and one motherboard to these acts of barbarism. Plus the non-DP stuff – keyboards with missing or broken keys, mice with buttons bent out or just smashed to bits, RS232 connectors broken because they forgot to unscrew them, all kinds of USB cables cracked at the connector because students unplug them to use with their own laptops and plug them back into the front IO creating a nice little 180° bend, countless ethernet cables ripped out of the motherboard, stolen equipment, monitors that were straight up broken off their stands…

        Calling them “cavemen” is an insult to cavemen.

        • crazycaveman@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          13·
          1 month ago

          Hear hear! Glad someone recognizes we’re not all barbarians who wreck anything we touch

        • tetris11@feddit.ukEnglish
          35·
          1 month ago

          jesus christ, add an NSFL tag to that

          • LordAmplifier@pawb.socialEnglish
            22·
            1 month ago

            There is a community for that kind of stuff if you’re into it - [email protected]. It’s kinda inactive and only has a new post once every other month, but there’s a photo of basically the same thing done to an HDMI cable seven posts down.

    • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      10·
      1 month ago

      Mechanical retention plugs are fading away, sadly. Long live the era of loose, wiggly plugs that may one day need to be held at a 20 degree angle to work.

      That being said, I hate the retention clips on RJ45 and RJ11 jacks… I’ve had a few that wouldn’t release at all. Then I wind up struggling with my router for 4-5 minutes because its hooked up in my entertainment stand. If you accidentally snap those suckers in the process and plug them back in they will slowly slide out and you’re left wondering why your ethernet connection isn’t working a couple months later.

      I’ve debated getting a spool of cat5 and a bag of RJ45. Much cheaper than replacing a whole cord every time and saves a lot of landfill. On the days my PC repair teacher was busy with a full IT backlog he’d sit us in a circle and had us put plugs on Cat5e, so the process isn’t unknown to me.

    • stupidcasey@lemmy.world
      10·
      1 month ago

      Back in my day you would rip your arm off before the cable breaks.

    • Obinice@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 month ago

      I’ve never actually seen a display port cable, so if there was one in the back of a PC I had to pull out, I’d initially treat it like a HDMI cable and just pull it out.

      It doesn’t look like it has screws, so if it has some way of locking in place it must be sneaky about it right?

      • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        9·
        1 month ago

        My rule of thumb for technology is “don’t force it”. If it doesn’t come out with a light pull that’s when the flashlight comes out and I start inspecting. This rule doesn’t always work, though. Sometimes it takes the strength of 10 gorillas to put RAM in and I’m always scared to push harder.

      • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        3·
        1 month ago

        It has two teeth like things and usually a barely noticeable “button” to press to release.

        • sheogorath@lemmy.world
          33·
          1 month ago

          The funny thing is that their comment is the one not federated properly.

          screenshot of the comment 2 level above this comment

          • Novaling@lemmy.zipEnglish
            5·
            1 month ago

            Holy shit I never knew that just putting pics was part of the issue. So many threads where I couldn’t see the joke.

            Also it’s fine on my end

  • AgilePeanut@lemm.ee
    87·
    1 month ago

    I lived with my gfs family for a short while. We had a breakin one day (South Africa). Guys tried taking a pc that was plugged in with a vga cable. They couldn’t get the cable off (the thief probably never used a pc in his life). They left the monitor (heavy crt type) with the vga cable, with a piece of the motherboard still attached to it.

    • muusemuuse@lemm.eeEnglish
      619·
      1 month ago

      Africa sounds terrible. You live in a place where they still use VGA? How horrible.

      • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        13·
        1 month ago

        Don’t you go knockin my VGA. I still have about 10 in my attic. If nothing else, they’re great self-defense weapons. They could do some serious damage to a potential attacker and probably still work after.

          • tetris11@feddit.ukEnglish
            27·
            1 month ago

            Well it’s about time my flowerbed got some fresh pixels

            • YodaDaCoda@aussie.zoneEnglish
              9·
              1 month ago

              I’m so glad I can finally clean my boots efficiently

          • rtxn@lemmy.worldM
            16·
            1 month ago

            That is atrocious, but I’m howling because that is literally PipeWire

        • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
          252·
          1 month ago

          You anarchist!

          Real talk though, I think specs are literally my favorite thing in the world. The truly great ones are so good that there’s never a real reason to deviate from them - if you do, you’re either doing something wrong or you’re taking a shortcut for a hobbyist project (which is fine, but not for anything mass-produced). USB is mostly one of those great specs. The cable you posted is an abomination. There is always a better way.

          • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
            8·
            1 month ago

            Yeah! Arbitrarily make one of those ends USB-B, then require it for nearly every damn printer in existence and don’t include the cable with the product.

            Yes, I am aware that those are all separate decisions made by different assholes.

            • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
              4·
              1 month ago

              Every part of that is fine except not including the cable with the product. But I don’t think I ever got a new product with a USB-B connector that didn’t come with the cable.

              • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                1 month ago

                I sold printers at a big box store for a few years. Do not count on those things having cables in the box.

          • notabot@lemm.ee
            1·
            1 month ago

            There are certainly better ways, but I suspect this way is cheaper as the only need to stock one connector type.

          • rtxn@lemmy.worldM
            14·
            1 month ago

            Those devices should always use type B (standard, mini, or micro) connectors. Type A should always be used on the host side. The reason is that a type A connector on a host or a hub acts as a power source. A male-A-to-male-A cable allows two hosts to send power through the cable, which will likely blow the USB circuitry or kill the entire device. This is why connecting a keyboard to old micro-B smartphones required an on-the-go adapter, or an AB socket and supporting electronics that can act as both a host and a peripheral device.

            Type C can be symmetric because the specification requires compliant hardware to perform this kind of negotiation (and more) between the two sides.

      • Shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works
        28·
        1 month ago

        The latch is optional. Most of my DP cables don’t have them, and I’m glad for it because they’re sometimes a pain in the arse to unlatch.

        • cRazi_man@lemm.ee
          21·
          1 month ago

          It’s a strength check. It takes the might of Thor to squeeze the plug enough, in a tight space, at an odd angle, behind the computer.

      • Lucy :3@feddit.org
        9·
        1 month ago

        I have a hell of a lot of DP cables, and only have one or so with clips.

    • 5too@lemmy.worldEnglish
      171·
      1 month ago

      Why do they even make them with the clips? If someone trips on a cable or something, and there’s no clip, it’s a mild inconvenience to plug it back in. If it’s clipped, you can bring the whole computer crashing down!

      • vivendi@programming.devEnglish
        11·
        1 month ago

        Cable strength. Loose cabling can cause contact and thus signal issues

        • frezik@midwest.social
          5·
          1 month ago

          Or stretch out the twists in the individual wires. That will also cause signal issues.

          IIRC, cat5 cables are rated for 50lbs of force on them. They’ll technically hold a lot more than that, but you can’t guarantee the twists will stay in spec.

          • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            2·
            1 month ago

            If you stretch, kink, or squish a CAT5 cable, there is a good chance that it will not work at 1G even if none of the conductors are broken or shorted. Sometimes they will initially connect at 1G, then fall back to 100M after some random amount of time making troubleshooting more annoying.

        • moody@lemmings.world
          3·
          1 month ago

          Loose cables can also damage the port and themselves.

      • Rhaedas@fedia.io
        4·
        1 month ago

        Designed so they wouldn’t become another HDMI fiasco, where you have to search for aftermarket clips so your plug stays in. Now, do Displayports need it, probably not. They feel about as secure as a USB. But there is that fear going back to even VGA, where most worked fine without screwing them in, but just to make sure… (I can’t recall, did EGA have screws?)

        • stoicmaverick@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 month ago

          I think all of the serial style connectors did, but some were considered optional in the spec.

    • Read Bio@lemm.eeEnglish
      13·
      1 month ago

      Yep and the DisplayPort standard says the latch is optional

      • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 month ago

        Do they also make cables that dont have the power pin (21 iirc?) Connected so both gpu and monitors try to power each other and never actually power up?

  • jim3692@discuss.online
    501·
    1 month ago

    Kids nowadays don’t know about DVI, VGA, COM, Parallel or Gameport. I loved the days when one could accidentally remove the screw on the board side.

  • DickFiasco@lemm.ee
    491·
    1 month ago

    Maybe it’s because the dinosaur high as fuck.

  • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.worldEnglish
    201·
    28 days ago

    Just do what I do. DVI to HDMI to an HDMI audio extractor to DVI.

    All that for one of these guys, with the speaker bar (not pictured)

    [Picture removed]

      • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        1 month ago

        Hah, no. Kinda looks like it, though. It’s a lamp, made out of a big glass vase and some LEDs, and the inside is a burned out resistive load that helped dissipate the excess energy from an old automated welding station. Basically, a big heatsink with a bunch of huge resistors. Just meant to dump a ton of energy out as heat for a few seconds at a time. I don’t have any better pics of it, I’m afraid.

        • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
          13·
          1 month ago

          So… batteries on a radiator that dumps heat into a space.

          Totally different than a space heater.

          • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 month ago

            It’s non-functioning industrial trash that was upcycled into a decorative lamp.

        • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
          1·
          1 month ago

          … better pics of it or it didn’t happen … ?

          Sounds like it looks cool af.

    • crank0271@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      1 month ago

      Hey, relax man. We aren’t all mechanical engineers here.

      • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 month ago

        Oh snap, just giving out personal information over here. Ill have to edit that in a minute.

    • muusemuuse@lemm.eeEnglish
      5·
      1 month ago

      Many monitors have an audio out port in the monitor itself now. Really useful if you have multiple inputs.

      • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 month ago

        Yeah, that is super handy. I wish this one had that. That’s what I was trying to emulate with the audio extractor.

    • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      1 month ago

      I miss my DVI to HDMI. Had to trade it off to a friend because his BenQ tinted everything lime green over HDMI. I gotta get another one to put in my big bag of cords I’ll never use but really like to have around.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
    195·
    1 month ago

    Why do display port cable connectors have these stupid latches with a crappy button that will, even when the button is fully depresses, still stick out so that removing the connector nis always a draaaagggg…

    Yeah, HDMI licensing sucks but at least you can plug and disconnect HDMI in a normal way. Dispkay port is the worst

    • Blemgo@lemmy.world
      14·
      1 month ago

      I do like the hooks on Display Port, honestly. There were quite a few times where HDMI cables came loose while adjusting my screen due to the cable being tied together with other cables for organisational purposes. Putting it back in always a chore then.

      I don’t think it is even much of a hassle when unplugging it from a machine, such as a PC. I do agree it’s a pain for monitors however, as the ports usually are in a more indented position.

    • tiddy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      12·
      1 month ago

      You can buy cables without the latches on them, though idk if theyre technically to spec

        • Thteven@lemmy.world
          3·
          1 month ago

          This thread has me trippin out, I have 3 display port monitors and none of them have that latch.

          • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
            1·
            1 month ago

            Oh thank whatever god you believe in, that is such a blessing

            I once bought a displayport to HDMI converter, plugged it in, and I could never unplug it anmore, so I just got another HDMI monitor for it

    • communism@lemmy.ml
      4·
      1 month ago

      But have you considered that the DisplayPort shape looks kinda sexy

  • gamer@lemm.ee
    13·
    1 month ago

    Slightly OT, but what do you call people who role play as dragons/reptiles/etc? “Furries” seems inaccurate, but it’s the first term that comes to mind when I see art like this.

  • Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world
    12·
    1 month ago

    A similar vein as this, at work I was talking about a heat gun:

    “Look, the feet are molded into the cable so if you break it you have to buy theirs!”

    I then pull the cable out to show it as an example and snap

    I didn’t realize it had a retention clip at all, so I lightly pulled it and snapped the thin plastic holding it in. I thought it was held in by friction.

    Oops.

  • enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    9·
    1 month ago

    I’ve cut my finger with that sharp metal bump in the DisplayPort cable head. I forgot what I was doing, though. but I was struggling to unplug it and accidentally pressing it abobe that sharp metal bit.

    The cut was small but deep, I end up enjoying to see my fresh red blood for a while because it was quite a lot. I rarely bleed that much.

  • r0ertel@lemmy.world
    9·
    1 month ago

    The cash registers at a place I worked had this for the PS2 keyboard connection, too. IIRC, you needed to slide back a sleeve before giving the cable a tug. All this was behind the tight counter, buried under a layer of dust and whatever else fell behind the register. A skilled coworker could do it with one hand, but I never mastered that skill.